[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Niall

You're missing my point.

He said that he used to think religion was the way to Jesus and that he just went along with it but never truly believed. To use his analogy "it's like buying a lakers shirt and saying you play for them".

And it'd say it's pretty accurate to thing that most Christians believe that the church is the way to god and that it isn't a personal thing but rather something that has to be ritualistic etc, and that they probably haven't considered that you can get to god and Jesus by yourself should you try.

He's trying to point that out, as am I. I'm fully aware that church can be anywhere, but I'm not talking about the building I'm about the organisation and ritualistic 'church' that Christians (like myself) are supposed to follow.



Christianity isn't a cult. It doesn't force members to remain in their church or brainwash them or anything like that. Don't be ridiculous.

Christianity brainwashes children before they can make informed decisions - witness SUnday school and the filthy catholic religion, witness jews mutilating boys. Its a cult and a big cult.

"And it'd say it's pretty accurate to thing that most Christians believe that the church is the way to god and that it isn't a personal thing but rather something that has to be ritualistic etc, and that they probably haven't considered that you can get to god and Jesus by yourself should you try"

Hebrews 10:25
Let us not give up meeting together, as some are in the habit of doing, but let us encourage one another—and all the more as you see the Day approaching. (NIV)

the reason for church is the flippin bible itself. if that guy actually read his bible he would realise what a silly rant he has created

[Shasown]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

Christianity brainwashes children before they can make informed decisions - witness SUnday school and the filthy catholic religion, witness jews mutilating boys. Its a cult and a big cult.

"And it'd say it's pretty accurate to thing that most Christians believe that the church is the way to god and that it isn't a personal thing but rather something that has to be ritualistic etc, and that they probably haven't considered that you can get to god and Jesus by yourself should you try"

Hebrews 10:25
Let us not give up meeting together, as some are in the habit of doing, but let us encourage one another—and all the more as you see the Day approaching. (NIV)

the reason for church is the flippin bible itself. if that guy actually read his bible he would realise what a silly rant he has created

Is that the Jewish Christian sect or the Christian Jewish cult?

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Shasown

Is that the Jewish Christian sect or the Christian Jewish cult?

who cares. they are all liars and child mutilators

[Shasown]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

who cares. they are all liars and child mutilators

The Jews who you are calling christian probably do.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Shasown

The Jews who you are calling christian probably do.

they all are the same thing. men wanting status through rules and coercion.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

they all are the same thing. men wanting status through rules and coercion.

It always saddens me when people speak about my religion without knowing anything much about it. I have never, and would never, encourage anyone to take up my religion because everyone's belief is personal to them. Everyone with a brain can make an informed choice. Using blanket phrases to cover your own disbelief is a little insulting, but if it makes you feel better... enjoy.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Livia

It always saddens me when people speak about my religion without knowing anything much about it. I have never, and would never, encourage anyone to take up my religion because everyone's belief is personal to them. Everyone with a brain can make an informed choice. Using blanket phrases to cover your own disbelief is a little insulting, but if it makes you feel better... enjoy.

How can a young person make an informed decision when his parents and other relations have drummed into him or her from day 1 that their religion is true and that they should believe in it without question?

The tradition of Jewish education goes back to biblical times. One of the basic duties of Jewish parents is to provide for the instruction of their children. The obligation to teach one's children is set forth in the first paragraph of the Shema Yisrael prayer: “Take to heart these instructions with which I charge you this day. Impress them upon your children. Recite them when you stay at home and when you are away, when you lie down and when you get up. Bind them as sign on your hand and let them serve as a symbol on your forehead; inscribe them on the doorposts of your house and your gates.” (Deut 6:6-9).[wiki]