[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by alex_front2

Do you remember early this year when NBA US-Korean basketball Jeremy Lin was breaking records and people were saying 'Linsanity' 'We're Linning'. Basically an Asian had the temerity to be as good as the other players who were mainly black American.

Do you think that those people were actually racist though or was it just because you don't often see Asian basketball players that good?

[alex_front2]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Do you think that those people were actually racist though or was it just because you don't often see Asian basketball players that good?

Same thing. Not seeing Asian basketball players as good is racist. You are making an assumption based on race. Alot of people think Koreans, Chinese, Mongolians etc are all the same. Heck loads of people think all Chinese are the same.

White people generally get seen as individuals and judged accordingly. But as soon as a someone who isn't white does something that people haven't seen before 'woahhhhh'. Lewis Hamilton can drive an F1? But his dad's black. Tiger Woods plays golf? But his dads' mixed black. Barak Obama wants to run as US president? Are you sure he's an American?

Conor keeps accusing Deana of playing up to the cameras when she knows she's live on TV. OK nothing wrong with that even though we've seen zero evidence of this and we see live before during and after evictions. However Arron was blatantly playing up to the live TV moment when the nomms were announced ie his weird no more pranks speech. I am not a gambler but I am guessing Conor will say nothing.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by alex_front2

Same thing. Not seeing Asian basketball players as good is racist. You are making an assumption based on race. Alot of people think Koreans, Chinese, Mongolians etc are all the same. Heck loads of people think all Chinese are the same.

White people generally get seen as individuals and judged accordingly. But as soon as a someone who isn't white does something that people haven't seen before 'woahhhhh'. Lewis Hamilton can drive an F1? But his dad's black. Tiger Woods plays golf? But his dads' mixed black. Barak Obama wants to run as US president? Are you sure he's an American?

Conor keeps accusing Deana of playing up to the cameras when she knows she's live on TV. OK nothing wrong with that even though we've seen zero evidence of this and we see live before during and after evictions. However Arron was blatantly playing up to the live TV moment when the nomms were announced ie his weird no more pranks speech. I am not a gambler but I am guessing Conor will say nothing.

You're making a massive amount of assumptions. Some people say Wow! About Lewis Hamilton because they think it's refreshing to see a black man in an F1 car.

Aaron, as profoundly stupid as he is, is perfectly entitled to dislike Deana. That doesn't making him a racist. Maybe he just doesn't like her.

[alex_front2]

Originally Posted by Livia

You're making a massive amount of assumptions. Some people say Wow! About Lewis Hamilton because they think it's refreshing to see a black man in an F1 car.

Aaron, as profoundly stupid as he is, is perfectly entitled to dislike Deana. That doesn't making him a racist. Maybe he just doesn't like her.

How patronising. Yes, black people can read write and get into top unis become scientists and become billionaires. no patronage of white people needed.

the fact that people say it's refreshing to see a black man in a F1 car is utterly racialist. He's a F1 driver just like Button, Vettel, Webber, Shumey, Alonso. Why should his ethnicity be a big deal.

Then there's the vilification of the William Sisters in tennis. They act no worse than Nadal and are slated.

Anyway back to BB I am putting Conors attitude to deana under the microscope.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by alex_front2

How patronising. Yes, black people can read write and get into top unis become scientists and become billionaires. no patronage of white people needed.

the fact that people say it's refreshing to see a black man in a F1 car is utterly racialist. He's a F1 driver just like Button, Vettel, Webber, Shumey, Alonso. Why should his ethnicity be a big deal.

Then there's the vilification of the William Sisters in tennis. They act no worse than Nadal and are slated.

Anyway back to BB I am putting Conors attitude to deana under the microscope.

OMG she never said that black people couldn't be F1 drivers, she said that there aren't many of them (which is a fact btw) so it's refreshing to see one there. Jesus.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by alex_front2

How patronising. Yes, black people can read write and get into top unis become scientists and become billionaires. no patronage of white people needed.

the fact that people say it's refreshing to see a black man in a F1 car is utterly racialist. He's a F1 driver just like Button, Vettel, Webber, Shumey, Alonso. Why should his ethnicity be a big deal.

Then there's the vilification of the William Sisters in tennis. They act no worse than Nadal and are slated.

Anyway back to BB I am putting Conors attitude to deana under the microscope.

Are you serious? I went to Cambridge and studied with people of all colours and backgrounds. Many of my colleagues are black, well-educated and successful. How dare you assume that I'm racist and patronising black people in what I say.

You really think that me thinking it's good to see a black man driving an F1 car is racist? It's a big deal because fifty short years ago, black people had to use a different entrance to white people, and in the USA, sit in a different place on the bus. Things have moved on... and that's a good thing.

Seriously, I think you need to drop the "racist" thing and leave the microscope alone.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by alex_front2

Same thing. Not seeing Asian basketball players as good is racist. You are making an assumption based on race. Alot of people think Koreans, Chinese, Mongolians etc are all the same. Heck loads of people think all Chinese are the same.

White people generally get seen as individuals and judged accordingly. But as soon as a someone who isn't white does something that people haven't seen before 'woahhhhh'. Lewis Hamilton can drive an F1? But his dad's black. Tiger Woods plays golf? But his dads' mixed black. Barak Obama wants to run as US president? Are you sure he's an American?

Conor keeps accusing Deana of playing up to the cameras when she knows she's live on TV. OK nothing wrong with that even though we've seen zero evidence of this and we see live before during and after evictions. However Arron was blatantly playing up to the live TV moment when the nomms were announced ie his weird no more pranks speech. I am not a gambler but I am guessing Conor will say nothing.

It's not racist, it's going on what people are used to seeing. It's like when we Irish had a gold medal winning swimmer years ago, we were all pleasantly surprised because we're used to seeing better swimmers from other countries, that's not racist or xenophobic or whatever and I am Irish.