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Originally Posted by lostalex

and what about men who arn't fertile, maybe they had a form of cancer that makes them unable to have children, shoulkd a man have to tell a girl he is infertile on the first date, or a woman who can't have biological children.

You think it's offensive if they don't say it in the first date? It's no different than luke A.

Believe it or not, being able to have children is not the most important thing in a relationship. This is the year 2012, women and men arn't just getting into a relationship to procreate. For most of us it's about love, not just making babies.

I knew you were going to say something like this which is why I used the word 'can' - as in having the ability to do something. A man can produce sperm, a woman will never be able to.

This is not a question of fertility so the issue of procreation is moot; this is a question of biological identity - man versus woman.

If we're talking about deceit, I believe a woman stuffing her bra and a woman who's gone through a process to make herself appear to be someone she's biologically not are light years apart.