[bbfan1991]

The Church of England and Church in Wales will be banned in law from offering same-sex marriages, the government announces.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-20680924

[Marcus.]

oh ok

[Jack_]

Not good enough.

But then Rome wasn't built in a day. These delusional fools time will come eventually.

[Redway]

Ridiculous but I really wish people would stop treating this issue as if it's extremely important and I don't know why people are acting surprised. Religious institutions in general are known for being full of hate and homophobia so I wouldn't be surprised if the CofE plans to remain like this.

[InOne]

I don't get why Gay people would want to get married in a Church. If they're Christian they know very well the views of the Church on sexuality. It seems as if the ones who want it are probably the types who pick and choose the 'nice' bits of their Religion.

[Redway]

Exactly. This "pick and mix" notion is what pisses me off the most. You can't just cherry pick what bits of a religion you want to follow and ignore the other doctrines just because you don't like them. Bottom line is if you're not going to follow all Christianity (for example) then you don't need to bother claiming to be a Christian at all. The Bible makes itself very clear on its views on homosexuality and if you want gay marriage then you're not a Christian.

[arista]

All Today On the news
is Fecking Church People


Times Change - Deal with it

[MTVN]

I think it's good news, by allowing the CofE not to conduct same sex marriage ceremonies it opens the way for it's more widespread legalisation, there's little point trying to force them to change their beliefs and impose it on them

[arista]

Originally Posted by Scrooge

I don't get why Gay people would want to get married in a Church. If they're Christian they know very well the views of the Church on sexuality. It seems as if the ones who want it are probably the types who pick and choose the 'nice' bits of their Religion.

Pick and Mix


There is Enough Labour , Libs and some Conservatives
to get this through.


What do the Curch Folk want a War?
Because they sound like they will Die for this
as they do want Gays in their crib

[Ninastar]

I can understand why, and it makes me sad that people will now have unnecessary hate towards religious people.

[arista]

Originally Posted by NativityStar

I can understand why, and it makes me sad that people will now have unnecessary hate towards religious people.

No its Hate For Gays


Less care about Church Now


As there Ain't No God

[Redway]

Originally Posted by arista

No its Hate For Gays


Less care about Church Now


As there Ain't No God

No offense, but why do you always say that? Whilst the idea of Christianity and all that is just nonsense, you can't prove or disprove that there may be some outer force out there.

[arista]

Originally Posted by Scouse Prezzie

No offense, but why do you always say that? Whilst the idea of Christianity and all that is just nonsense, you can't prove or disprove that there may be some outer force out there.

There are less going To Church



Yes I understand No One Can Prove God
Thats Why there is No God.

[AnnieK]

Originally Posted by arista

There are less going To Church



Yes I understand No One Can Prove God
Thats Why there is No God.

You can't disprove God either though....

[arista]

Originally Posted by Mrs Claus

You can't disprove God either though....

I Can


As You Can Not Prove It


FACT

[Redway]

Originally Posted by arista

I Can


As You Can Not Prove It


FACT

But you can't disprove it either. Fact. End. No but's, no if's. It's pointless picking sides when there's just as much evidence for either - i.e. nothing. The God of religion is obviously false but I don't see why people have to dismiss the idea that there could possibly be a greater force out there that science can't prove. I like to remain an agnostic.

[lily.]

Originally Posted by Scouse Prezzie

Exactly. This "pick and mix" notion is what pisses me off the most. You can't just cherry pick what bits of a religion you want to follow and ignore the other doctrines just because you don't like them. Bottom line is if you're not going to follow all Christianity (for example) then you don't need to bother claiming to be a Christian at all. The Bible makes itself very clear on its views on homosexuality and if you want gay marriage then you're not a Christian.

With all due respect, this is bollocks.

The whole point of religion is to take from it what you want.. It's not a load of rules set in stone. 100 people could read the bible and get 100 different messages from it. Everyone has their own interpretation of the stuff religion is made of. Some go to church regularly, some never do. Some read the bible regularly, some never do.

Who the hell are you to decide what criteria you must meet in order to be classed 'Christian'.

Not all Christians are raging homophobes.

[arista]

Originally Posted by lily.

With all due respect, this is bollocks.

The whole point of religion is to take from it what you want.. It's not a load of rules set in stone. 100 people could read the bible and get 100 different messages from it. Everyone has their own interpretation of the stuff religion is made of. Some go to church regularly, some never do. Some read the bible regularly, some never do.

Who the hell are you to decide what criteria you must meet in order to be classed 'Christian'.

Not all Christians are raging homophobes.

They Sound It on Radio and TV News.

[lily.]

Empty vessels make the most noise arista.

[Livia]

I really don't understand it. Why would people want to be married in a church knowing that it goes against that church's teachings? You want to be a member of a church, but you want to change what their beliefs are. Divorced people can't marry in many churches, I don't see anyone demanding an Act of Parliament for them. People can't marry in a synagogue if one of them isn't a Jew but they seem to manage without feeling marginalised and demanding a change in the law. I think the vast majority of people would support civil marriages for gay people, and if you're religious, have your church bless you. Many churches do this already, mostly for divorced people.

[Redway]

Originally Posted by lily.

With all due respect, this is bollocks.

The whole point of religion is to take from it what you want.. It's not a load of rules set in stone. 100 people could read the bible and get 100 different messages from it. Everyone has their own interpretation of the stuff religion is made of. Some go to church regularly, some never do. Some read the bible regularly, some never do.

Who the hell are you to decide what criteria you must meet in order to be classed 'Christian'.

Not all Christians are raging homophobes.

I'm not saying that all Christians are raging homophobes (as you put it) but it is very clear that homosexuality goes against the church's teachings. It's there for all to see in black and white.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Shining Star

oh ok

This.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Scouse Prezzie

Whilst the idea of Christianity and all that is just nonsense, you can't prove or disprove that there may be some outer force out there.

Originally Posted by Scouse Prezzie

But you can't disprove it either. Fact. End. No but's, no if's. It's pointless picking sides when there's just as much evidence for either - i.e. nothing. The God of religion is obviously false but I don't see why people have to dismiss the idea that there could possibly be a greater force out there that science can't prove. I like to remain an agnostic.

Hypocrite much?

You're telling arista he has no right to dismiss the religious views of people because there's no evidence either way and then spout out...
"Christianity and all that is just nonsense..."
"The God of religion is obviously fake..."

Pointless telling arista not to be so blunt and then do it yourself.

[Redway]

Originally Posted by Marshmallow

Hypocrite much?

You're telling arista he has no right to dismiss the religious views of people because there's no evidence either way and then spout out...
"Christianity and all that is just nonsense..."
"The God of religion is obviously fake..."

Pointless telling arista not to be so blunt and then do it yourself.

Did you actually read my post? I said that there may well be some outer force out there but that religion is obviously not there (imo). There's a big difference between the two and you can still believe in a God (outer force) without trying to belong to one religion. Note I used the terms 'agnostic' and 'outer force'.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Scouse Prezzie

Did you actually read my post? I said that there may well be some outer force out there but that religion is obviously not there (imo). There's a big difference between the two and you can still believe in a God (outer force) without trying to belong to one religion. Note I used the terms 'agnostic' and 'outer force'.

It's hypocritical.

Arista can't dismiss God altogether but you can dismiss religion because you don't believe in it. People can do as they please.