[the truth]

Originally Posted by Indy

Why do people go to so much effort to lie about things everyone here can queue up on video and replay a dozen times over? He grabbed her throat, forced her down to the bed, let go of her throat, pinned her arms, got in her face and told her to learn to respect her elders or he would abuse her further.

Any version that says otherwise is fiction.

you seem to have edited out all the things she did, so your version is fiction

[Indy]

Originally Posted by the truth

you seem to have edited out all the things she did, so your version is fiction

You mean like sitting in the garden talking to Charlie while he kept ranting about them? The 2nd rage he went into over her going back outside after her bathroom break?

[the truth]

Originally Posted by Indy

You mean like sitting in the garden talking to Charlie while he kept ranting about them? The 2nd rage he went into over her going back outside after her bathroom break?

I don't like the man, but it doesn't mean he should be crucified. he wanted kip and that's why he was telling them to keep it down. she tortured him as he is mentally a lot weaker and totally out of his depth. and no this doesn't justify him putting his hands on her neck.