[Kyle]

Originally Posted by DanaC

It's also because saying they are 'coloured' suggests that, rather than simply being a different colour to white people (ie two different colours) it suggests that whte people have no colour, they are simply the norm, whereas black people have a colour.

I think it's best if we as people never ever mention anybody's skin colour as anything in case the old PC brigade wheel up and frisk you off for a seminar.

[DanaC]

Originally Posted by Simple Minds

I think it's best if we as people never ever mention anybody's skin colour as anything in case the old PC brigade wheel up and frisk you off for a seminar.

Oh those terrible PC brigades. Wanting not to cause unnecesary offence to people.

Never understood why people get so het up about it. If I discover that a word I am accustomed to using is actually offensive to the people that word concerns, why would I wish to dig in my heels against that?

An occasional moment's discomfort over not being sure of the currently acceptable word is worth it for a society that tries not to cause hurt to people because of who or what they are.

[Kyle]

Originally Posted by DanaC

Oh those terrible PC brigades. Wanting not to cause unnecesary offence to people.

Never understood why people get so het up about it. If I discover that a word I am accustomed to using is actually offensive to the people that word concerns, why would wish to dig in my heels against that?

An occasional moment's discomfort over not being sure of the currently acceptable word is worth it for a society that tries not to cause hurt to people because of who or what they are.

Because they always go above and beyond their station.


Racism is wrong, good we are sorting it out.

Alan Hanson calls a player coloured on tv with no malice or hint of disgust and the knives are out.

That is what the PC brigade has done. People are now looking to be offended at EVERYTHING.

[Northern Monkey]

Originally Posted by Simple Minds

Because they always go above and beyond their station.


Racism is wrong, good we are sorting it out.

Alan Hanson calls a player coloured on tv with no malice or hint of disgust and the knives are out.

That is what the PC brigade has done. People are now looking to be offended at EVERYTHING.

Yep,Soon we'll be going round saying "IC3 male" instead of "black man",Like the police.PC can be very overboard,Just like the other year when the PC brigade tried to ban Merry Christmas signs incase they offended the muslims.Ridiculous.

[MrWong]

Originally Posted by EyeballPaul

Yep,Soon we'll be going round saying "IC3 male" instead of "black man",Like the police.PC can be very overboard, Just like the other year when the PC brigade tried to ban Merry Christmas signs incase they offended the muslims.Ridiculous.

Did you get that from the Daily Mail?

[Northern Monkey]

Originally Posted by MrWong

Did you get that from the Daily Mail?

It happened.A local council in some town(can't remember where),Wanted shops to take down Merry Christmas banners incase Muslims were offended.This was political correctness gone well overboard.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by EyeballPaul

It happened.A local council in some town(can't remember where),Wanted shops to take down Merry Christmas banners incase Muslims were offended.This was political correctness gone well overboard.

Some town = Urban Legend

[MrWong]

Originally Posted by EyeballPaul

It happened.A local council in some town(can't remember where),Wanted shops to take down Merry Christmas banners incase Muslims were offended.This was political correctness gone well overboard.

Far more likely that it was a suggestion made by one person that was ignored, rather than an entire council.

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by GiRTh

To a racist , homophobe, sexist etc. Nothing matters more than their stupid little prejudice. I have an uncle who is a very religious 7th day Adventist fool and as soon as he hears the word gay he almost shuts down. I'm not joking. He such a homophobe that nothing else matters to him. Trust me. If Ron was a true racist he most definitely would NOT have played black players, no matter how good they were and no matter how sh*t the white players were. This happened in Basketball in the 1950's when Red Auerbach became coach of the Celtics and had to endure all the racism that came with him playing black players.

Originally Posted by Brother Leon

What he said was disgusting and should not be forgotten or forgiven. What he has done for black footballers though also should not be forgotten. Just a shame it was outdone by a severe comment.



If he was truly racist, he would not Of played the players regardless of their quality due to their skin colour though.

..hmm, ok I understand what you're both saying and this is the main reason why I wanted to make the thread, to get other people's opinions because I don't know an awful lot about him other than that one comment which was indeed disgusting but for me made worse by the fact that he didn't appear to be sorry about it when I saw him on Wife Swap...I do see that the balance of positive things he did should define him as well though and I understand more what they were and maybe prejudices he himself faced for his decisions..thank you for your intelligent opinions...

[DanaC]

Originally Posted by EyeballPaul

Yep,Soon we'll be going round saying "IC3 male" instead of "black man",Like the police.PC can be very overboard,Just like the other year when the PC brigade tried to ban Merry Christmas signs incase they offended the muslims.Ridiculous.

Because they offended the muslims? Or because some individual official decided it might offend them?

if indeed it even happened.

Doorstepping in the run up elections I lost count of the times people told me that 'they can't even put Christmas decorations up in Bradford now!'...utter crap: I shop there every year and you can't ****ing move for Christmas nativity scenes and giant santas.

Or the evergreen claim that 'They can't even put the St George's flag up in the TownHall on St Georges Day!' - again utter bollocks. We had a meeting that very year ion St George's day and there was a flag the size of a boat sail draped on Hall wall.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by DanaC

Because they offended the muslims? Or because some individual official decided it might offend them?

if indeed it even happened.

Doorstepping in the run up elections I lost count of the times people told me that 'they can't even put Christmas decorations up in Bradford now!'...utter crap: I shop there every year and you can't ****ing move for Christmas nativity scenes and giant santas.

Or the evergreen claim that 'They can't even put the St George's flag up in the TownHall on St Georges Day!' - again utter bollocks. We had a meeting that very year ion St George's day and there was a flag the size of a boat sail draped on Hall wall.

lol I think that banning Christmas s**t is more of an Urban legend, it pops up every now and then

[Kyle]

Originally Posted by DanaC

Because they offended the muslims? Or because some individual official decided it might offend them?

if indeed it even happened.

Doorstepping in the run up elections I lost count of the times people told me that 'they can't even put Christmas decorations up in Bradford now!'...utter crap: I shop there every year and you can't ****ing move for Christmas nativity scenes and giant santas.

Or the evergreen claim that 'They can't even put the St George's flag up in the TownHall on St Georges Day!' - again utter bollocks. We had a meeting that very year ion St George's day and there was a flag the size of a boat sail draped on Hall wall.

You can scoff at him all you want but when I was an apprentice for A local Council I got the chance to design a flower bed at the entrance of a Central Park. Because of the World Cup I decided on a St. George's Cross and we all agreed. 4 days later I was told to scrap that idea because the suits decided it would cause division within the towns community.

[Northern Monkey]

[QUOTE=DanaC;6323423]Because they offended the muslims? Or because some individual official decided it might offend them?

This is what i'm saying!I'm not saying any Muslims were offended by Christmas banners,I'm saying some PC council idiot decided that Christmas banners could offend.

[DanaC]

[QUOTE=EyeballPaul;6323437]

Originally Posted by DanaC

Because they offended the muslims? Or because some individual official decided it might offend them?

This is what i'm saying!I'm not saying any Muslims were offended by Christmas banners,I'm saying some PC council idiot decided that Christmas banners could offend.

By far the most common form of 'pc' action or intent in councils is a genuine attempt to promote community cohesion and avoid causing offence and alienation of minorities within their borough. This very rarely involves the kind of nonsense you are referring to.

That's like deciding that, because a bloke in the Parking Dept. used the work '****' councils across the land are racist organisations.

We don't then all get into a huff about the nazi brigades.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Simple Minds

I think it's best if we as people never ever mention anybody's skin colour as anything in case the old PC brigade wheel up and frisk you off for a seminar.

It always makes me smile when people who want other people to be respected for who they are rather than what colour they are or where they come from, are referred to as the "PC Brigade".

[DanaC]

Originally Posted by Livia

It always makes me smile when people who want other people to be respected for who they are rather than what colour they are or where they come from, are referred to as the "PC Brigade".

*smiles* well said.