[kefln]

Originally Posted by iiamlukee

if you look at her VT she comes across as strong and can stand up for herself, she was evicted 6 times for a reason! emma even described jale as nightmare tenant. at the end of the day 1 launch describing the day 2 housemates. now she acting all different. as i said was evicted 6 times for a reason and was described as a nightmare tenant

I'm sorry, but what has getting evicted got to do with "playing the victim" on TV?

If someone can be a little crazy, or irresponsible, if "real" life, that is no indication as to how they'd react in a pressurised environment when being set on by others.

And we have no real idea as to why she was evicted in the past. She could have been evicted 6 times for having loud parties and destroying the place. It could have happened when she was in her early 20's and still mad in the head. Who knows?

Everyone lies and bigs themselves up in their VTs. You don't get into BB by saying that you like washing dishes and have the occasional cuppa.

[LukeB]

Originally Posted by kefln

I'm sorry, but what has getting evicted got to do with "playing the victim" on TV?

If someone can be a little crazy, or irresponsible, if "real" life, that is no indication as to how they'd react in a pressurised environment when being set on by others.

And we have no real idea as to why she was evicted in the past. She could have been evicted 6 times for having loud parties and destroying the place. It could have happened when she was in her early 20's and still mad in the head. Who knows?

Everyone lies and bigs themselves up in their VTs. You don't get into BB by saying that you like washing dishes and have the occasional cuppa.

didn't say being evicted 6 times makes her victim it makes it look strange how she acting, she is 33! and acting like a school girl letting bullies bully her. why do you think people who got bullied don't get bullied anymore? because they stand up for themselfs. she needs to man up and tell toya,helen and pauline what she thinks and have a word with them on their own! not sitting on their own feeling sorry themselfs. even danielle asked jale why isn't she saying something. standing up to bullies doesn't mean your a nasty person and jale obvious aint but standing up for yourself means you strong person who doesn;t take rubbish! even younger people stand up for themselfs. Jale needs to say something because its getting annoying

[Tarryn]

Originally Posted by iiamlukee

didn't say being evicted 6 times makes her victim it makes it look strange how she acting, she is 33! and acting like a school girl letting bullies bully her. why do you think people who got bullied don't get bullied anymore? because they stand up for themselfs. she needs to man up and tell toya,helen and pauline what she thinks and have a word with them on their own! not sitting on their own feeling sorry themselfs. even danielle asked jale why isn't she saying something. standing up to bullies doesn't mean your a nasty person and jale obvious aint but standing up for yourself means you strong person who doesn;t take rubbish! even younger people stand up for themselfs. Jale needs to say something because its getting annoying

Why should she ?.
Let the bullies bury themselves even deeper.
They are showing themselves up.
If Jale said something they would just shout over her.
Look what Pauline was like ?.
I get that you don't like Jale & I'm not a big fan either but I just can't stand it when others try to make another person feel like trash.
Just accept people deal with situations in a different way.

[jet]

Superb posts Kefln!

[kefln]

Originally Posted by iiamlukee

didn't say being evicted 6 times makes her victim it makes it look strange how she acting, she is 33! and acting like a school girl letting bullies bully her. why do you think people who got bullied don't get bullied anymore? because they stand up for themselfs. she needs to man up and tell toya,helen and pauline what she thinks and have a word with them on their own! not sitting on their own feeling sorry themselfs. even danielle asked jale why isn't she saying something. standing up to bullies doesn't mean your a nasty person and jale obvious aint but standing up for yourself means you strong person who doesn;t take rubbish! even younger people stand up for themselfs. Jale needs to say something because its getting annoying

So as a confessed "Helen fan" you are more annoyed at Jale for not kicking off, then you are at Helen for being a bully?

That Jale is acting like a school girl for keeping cool, while Helen is making it all school yard bully tactics?

Surely the more mature person is the one that acts like an adult, while the child is the one that resorts to name calling and showing off?

Wouldn't the more mature person understand that there is a time and place? That kicking off can sometimes make things worse? While the more childish has no self awareness and therefore has no problem being nasty and cruel for no reason?

You argument makes no sense. You admit that there is bullying going on, that you are a Helen fan and that Helen is the cause, but you are annoyed at Jale for being the more mature individual.

[kefln]

Originally Posted by iiamlukee

didn't say being evicted 6 times makes her victim it makes it look strange how she acting, she is 33! and acting like a school girl letting bullies bully her. why do you think people who got bullied don't get bullied anymore? because they stand up for themselfs. she needs to man up and tell toya,helen and pauline what she thinks and have a word with them on their own! not sitting on their own feeling sorry themselfs. even danielle asked jale why isn't she saying something. standing up to bullies doesn't mean your a nasty person and jale obvious aint but standing up for yourself means you strong person who doesn;t take rubbish! even younger people stand up for themselfs. Jale needs to say something because its getting annoying

It really does sound to me like you are looking for reasons to dislike Jale. Just something to justify why Helen is being so offensive.

That if Jale was to sink to Helen's level, then it would be 50/50, rather than just Helen making a show of herself while Jale acts like the adult.

[LukeB]

Originally Posted by kefln

It really does sound to me like you are looking for reasons to dislike Jale. Just something to justify why Helen is being so offensive.

That if Jale was to sink to Helen's level, then it would be 50/50, rather than just Helen making a show of herself while Jale acts like the adult.

no i'm not looking for reasons to dislike jale, i go with my instinct. and i don't justify helen's behaviour hence why this topic is called Disappointed we all have opinions on this but to me and others because there is a poll about this, jale needs to say something, there is a difference between horrible arguments and standing up for yourself. some adults do speak their mind when someone is being a dhead to them doesn't mean its immature. my point is, Jale to me is coming across 'playing victim' maybe she didn't plan this when she went it but she saw Pauline had a problem with her so took advantage of it and the same with helen. maybe if jale man up and have a friendly word with them then my opinion might change.

[kefln]

Originally Posted by iiamlukee

no i'm not looking for reasons to dislike jale, i go with my instinct. and i don't justify helen's behaviour hence why this topic is called Disappointed we all have opinions on this but to me and others because there is a poll about this, jale needs to say something, there is a difference between horrible arguments and standing up for yourself. some adults do speak their mind when someone is being a dhead to them doesn't mean its immature. my point is, Jale to me is coming across 'playing victim' maybe she didn't plan this when she went it but she saw Pauline had a problem with her so took advantage of it and the same with helen. maybe if jale man up and have a friendly word with them then my opinion might change.

Originally Posted by iiamlukee

As a Helen fan I feel so disappointed with her by the way she has been acting towards Jale. i do feel its wrong . i feel she needs to step back and just ignore jale and never speak about her because its making Helen look bad.

First up, you called this thread "disappointed", because you are disappointed that Jale is making Helen look bad.

Your entire point is that Jale isn't kicking off and this makes her a bad person. But Jale would not be in this position if Helen hadn't put her there.

If Helen wasn't walking around the house calling Jale a Slug, then there would be no issue. If Jale was getting digs in, then it would just be two people arguing. But its not. Its a simple case of one person attacking another, for no reason.

So if you are disappointed in Helen, talk about Helen. However if you are really just looking for reasons to deflect Helen's behavior onto Jale...

[LukeB]

Originally Posted by kefln

First up, you called this thread "disappointed", because you are disappointed that Jale is making Helen look bad.

Your entire point is that Jale isn't kicking off and this makes her a bad person. But Jale would not be in this position if Helen hadn't put her there.

If Helen wasn't walking around the house calling Jale a Slug, then there would be no issue. If Jale was getting digs in, then it would just be two people arguing. But its not. Its a simple case of one person attacking another, for no reason.

So if you are disappointed in Helen, talk about Helen. However if you are really just looking for reasons to deflect Helen's behavior onto Jale...

your blowing this out of context. this thread is about how disappointed in how Helen is behaving meaning i don't like what she is doing to jale even though I'm no fan. I had to mention the victim business because there are my views and i did a poll about it yesterday and it would look like i was a hypocrite.slug wasn't nice thats what got me to do this thread but big brother can edit things so we don't know the full facts. Helen does need to stop drinking as she said she is a bitch, but that doesn't define her behaviour. what i'm saying is helen needs to stop and jale needs to go up to helen,pauline and toya and speak how she feels like helen and danielle did and see what happens in a nice chat(that could lead to a argument)

[kefln]

Originally Posted by iiamlukee

your blowing this out of context. this thread is about how disappointed in how Helen is behaving meaning i don't like what she is doing to jale even though I'm no fan. I had to mention the victim business because there are my views and i did a poll about it yesterday and it would look like i was a hypocrite.slug wasn't nice thats what got me to do this thread but big brother can edit things so we don't know the full facts. Helen does need to stop drinking as she said she is a bitch, but that doesn't define her behaviour. what i'm saying is helen needs to stop and jale needs to go up to helen,pauline and toya and speak how she feels like helen and danielle did and see what happens in a nice chat(that could lead to a argument)

If someone spends alot of their time b*tching, and picking, on other people, then yes, that defines their behaviour.

Jale is being the mature person. Its up to the adult acting like a child to "man up", not the other way around

[LukeB]

Originally Posted by kefln

First up, you called this thread "disappointed", because you are disappointed that Jale is making Helen look bad.

Your entire point is that Jale isn't kicking off and this makes her a bad person. But Jale would not be in this position if Helen hadn't put her there.

If Helen wasn't walking around the house calling Jale a Slug, then there would be no issue. If Jale was getting digs in, then it would just be two people arguing. But its not. Its a simple case of one person attacking another, for no reason.

So if you are disappointed in Helen, talk about Helen. However if you are really just looking for reasons to deflect Helen's behavior onto Jale...

yes i did say it's making helen look bad but i didn't mean the jale business, i mean the way she been towards, danielle,christopher and jale because its annoying when your favourite to win as ruined their chances because there not going to win now because of their horrible behaviour