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Ammi · 05-08-2014, 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Nell_McCoy

Ashleigh actually ORGANISED the Miss Derry contest the year after she won and ran classes for young women to raise their self esteem. I am sure she has had her Mum's support but if there's any pushing to be done its probably not Mary whose doing it. ASHLEIGH FTW

..that would kind of make sense, with the bullying she had...I'm glad she's built up confidence through it all, that's great to see, rather than a life 'victim'...

Kazanne · 05-08-2014, 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Niamh.

Fine use it all you want but It's unfair to use it against her mother, who's not a HM and should not be accused of being "pushy" or a bad mother when you really don't have a clue what kind of a mother or person she is.

Well I'm a self confessed bitch,that's probably why I don't like the girl,I mean if you dislike someone so much at least have the bottle to let them know instead of pretending to be their friend.

Kazanne · 05-08-2014, 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Ammi

..that would kind of make sense, with the bullying she had...I'm glad she's built up confidence through it all, that's great to see, rather than a life 'victim'...

How do you know she was bullied? same as we don't know what her mom is like,has this been proved or written somewhere or a card that's been thrown out to make us go "Ah"

Niamh. · 05-08-2014, 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Kazanne

Well I'm a self confessed bitch,that's probably why I don't like the girl,I mean if you dislike someone so much at least have the bottle to let them know instead of pretending to be their friend.

lol I'm sure you're not Kazanne

Isn't it easier to just try and be civil though? especially when you're trapped in that small space with them? Not only for your own benefit but for all the other people living with you?

Kizzy · 05-08-2014, 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Ammi

..actually the first person to mention her age was Helen who used it as an excuse to feel as though she should be treated differently and not subjected to her venom...and the only reason it's used on the forum is because of the childish behaviour we have seen so often in the house and the contrast to a lot of Ashleigh's behaviour...I'm always right, always right, always right, always right..etc....

Not as I recall. th first person to use it was ashleigh herself tbf, we're not discussing helen at the moment.
It's used a lot on the forum to excuse ashleighs manipulative and aggressive outbursts mainly.

rubymoo · 05-08-2014, 09:56 AM

Her age shouldn't be an issue.

Pav is 22, Christopher is 23 and Mark is 24, they are all close to her age so it shouldn't be an issue.

She does come across as moody, and grumpy, and a bit lifeless, she's not been the most exciting HM.

But that's what's so great about this forum, we get to share our opinions and back our favourites and we should be basing our opinions on what we've seen and feel.

Ammi · 05-08-2014, 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Kazanne

Well I'm a self confessed bitch,that's probably why I don't like the girl,I mean if you dislike someone so much at least have the bottle to let them know instead of pretending to be their friend.

..she's not the only housemate by far to have said that Helen is impossible to talk to in terms of listening or taking any criticism and that's it's just not worth what they know they have seen happen to others who have tried ..so she deals with it her way and some people don't like that..?..that's fine, I can understand that but it doesn't make her a bitch because she has conversations that criticise someone who leaves themselves open to such criticism with their behaviour...and there is no value on forcing your own bitter opinion..(not yours, Helen's and people like Helen..) on someone they don't like because that really is just their own experience and interaction with that person...and there's never really much value in making another human feel bad about themselves...we fairly much all do that enough ourselves without the help of others who don't see many positives in anything....

Ammi · 05-08-2014, 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Kazanne

How do you know she was bullied? same as we don't know what her mom is like,has this been proved or written somewhere or a card that's been thrown out to make us go "Ah"

..she's said she's been bullied several times so I'm not going to assume she's a liar as I haven't assumed any other housemate have lied about certain things...obviously with the exclusion of Danielle's persona...

Kizzy · 05-08-2014, 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Niamh.

Fine use it all you want but It's unfair to use it against her mother, who's not a HM and should not be accused of being "pushy" or a bad mother when you really don't have a clue what kind of a mother or person she is.

Yes she said pushy, nothing about her being a bad mother don't put words in peoples mouths.
It's not unusual for these 'pagent mom' types to be described as pushy and ashleigh does come across as a tad entitled and bratty at times.
That is not to be confused with the behaviour of your average 18yr old.

Niamh. · 05-08-2014, 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Kizzy

Yes she said pushy, nothing about her being a bad mother don't put words in peoples mouths.
It's not unusual for these 'pagent mom' types to be described as pushy and ashleigh does come across as a tad entitled and bratty at times.
That is not to be confused with the behaviour of your average 18yr old.

Thanks for the imput Kizzy, I'd rather discuss it with Kazanne though

Kazanne · 05-08-2014, 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Niamh.

lol I'm sure you're not Kazanne

Isn't it easier to just try and be civil though? especially when you're trapped in that small space with them? Not only for your own benefit but for all the other people living with you?

I just couldn't do that Niamh , I'de just HAVE to let rip.

Niamh. · 05-08-2014, 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Kazanne

I just couldn't do that Niamh , I'de just HAVE to let rip.

Kazanne for BB16

Kazanne · 05-08-2014, 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by rubymoo

Her age shouldn't be an issue.

Pav is 22, Christopher is 23 and Mark is 24, they are all close to her age so it shouldn't be an issue.

She does come across as moody, and grumpy, and a bit lifeless, she's not been the most exciting HM.

But that's what's so great about this forum, we get to share our opinions and back our favourites and we should be basing our opinions on what we've seen and feel.

Kazanne · 05-08-2014, 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Niamh.

Kazanne for BB16

I wouldn't last 5 minutes

Kizzy · 05-08-2014, 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Niamh.

Thanks for the imput Kizzy, I'd rather discuss it with Kazanne though

Anytime niamh

Niamh. · 05-08-2014, 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Kazanne

I wouldn't last 5 minutes

We'd have to get a campaign going here for you

One of these days one of our members will get on, my God though, it'd be a moderating nightmare I'd say

Samm · 05-08-2014, 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

I agree ,she's no real friend to Chris as she wasn't to Toya,Dani,using ,nasty spoilt brat

No, she was all friends with them and they where friends with her back

She also is in no way spoilt and she hasn't show any of it in the house so I don't see where you get this from

Kazanne · 05-08-2014, 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Niamh.

We'd have to get a campaign going here for you

One of these days one of our members will get on, my God though, it'd be a moderating nightmare I'd say

I think you'de have to recruit a few more

Samm · 05-08-2014, 10:19 AM

There's also no need for her age as Ashleigh is more mature and wise then the rest of the housemates

rubymoo · 05-08-2014, 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Kazanne

Thanks Kaz

chuff me dizzy · 05-08-2014, 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Nell_McCoy

Ashleigh actually ORGANISED the Miss Derry contest the year after she won and ran classes for young women to raise their self esteem. I am sure she has had her Mum's support but if there's any pushing to be done its probably not Mary whose doing it. ASHLEIGH FTW

WOWOWOW Im well impressed

mind you when there only 3 contestants that not hard to do

rusticgal · 05-08-2014, 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Kazanne

Well I'm a self confessed bitch,that's probably why I don't like the girl,I mean if you dislike someone so much at least have the bottle to let them know instead of pretending to be their friend.

Ashleigh never pretended to be Helens friend....Ashleigh disliked everything about her. Helen only confronted Ashleigh after she saw the footage of Ashleigh...when she had reason to. Ashleigh didn't have any reason to confront Helen and tell her what she thought of her...she bitched about Helens behaviour towards other housemates and her nasty controversial attitude. Helen was just waiting for a reason to confront Ashleigh and she got it...
You can't just go up to someone and say what you think of them.. You wait for the opportunity when you yourself are the subject of that behaviour. When Helen got her opportunity Ashleigh fought back...she told her what she thought...it was very intimidating for Ashleigh because she was surrounded by a pack of wolves...and as per usual Helen talked over her and just mouthed off.

chuff me dizzy · 05-08-2014, 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Kizzy

Yes she said pushy, nothing about her being a bad mother don't put words in peoples mouths.
It's not unusual for these 'pagent mom' types to be described as pushy and ashleigh does come across as a tad entitled and bratty at times.
That is not to be confused with the behaviour of your average 18yr old.

Kizzy · 05-08-2014, 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by ~Sam~

No, she was all friends with them and they where friends with her back

She also is in no way spoilt and she hasn't show any of it in the house so I don't see where you get this from

Remember the 'one word' story episode?... or her having a meltdown at christopher when she was 'tired'?