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Old 18-10-2014, 03:16 PM #76
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said Ched needs to tell people to not pick on the victim
she has had to move homes and change her name etc.
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so why are you posting pictures if you want her to be safe and protected?
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you are being a hypocrite of the highest order.
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so why are you posting pictures if you want her to be safe and protected?

Her face is not shown


the photo on the Far Right is his woman
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the photo on the Far Right is his woman
then what does she have to do with it and why are you posting more pics. you are a tabloid queen./ you are always a tabloid queen. you are no different then perez hilton around here.

You are our local Perez Hilton. our Tabloid QUEEN. yes QUEEn boy.

Queen Arista is your new name. because you act like a tabloid Queen.
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then what does she have to do with it and why are you posting more pics. you are a tabloid queen./ you are always a tabloid queen. you are no different then perez hilton around here.

You are our local Perez Hilton. our Tabloid QUEEN. yes QUEEn boy.

Queen Arista is your new name. because you act like a tabloid Queen.

A Great Deal
she has been on our TV News, just before this criminal was let out

Pictures are very important
you can ignore them

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Queen Arista/ make sure to deposit your tampons in the appropriate bin, you cannot flush them in the toilet.
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tampons in the toilet will back up the entire septic system bro. be wary/ the pipes are old.
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You must have had a bad night
8:51AM there
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It's not a bad decision on both parts. Getting drunk is only hurting yourself. A Man raping you was him attacking and hurting someone else. How do you not understand the difference?

You sound like one of those battered women that says "i shouldn't have made him angry" after her husband punches her face in. WAKE UP!



Wow......judgemental!

I have no idea how you came up with that.........

I was a 14 year old and he was a 17, we both made bad decisions, my mum was a battered wife and i vowed that that would never be me, i suggest you think about what you type before you type it

As you have suggested in previous posts on other threads you have experimented and as a 14 year old i tried alcohol, i learnt from that and i also learnt that there are many opportunists out there who are willing to take advantage, i by no means sound like a battered wife, and i am highly offended by you implying that that's how i came across.
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Wow......judgemental!

I have no idea how you came up with that.........

I was a 14 year old and he was a 17, we both made bad decisions, my mum was a battered wife and i vowed that that would never be me, i suggest you think about what you type before you type it

As you have suggested in previous posts on other threads you have experimented and as a 14 year old i tried alcohol, i learnt from that and i also learnt that there are many opportunists out there who are willing to take advantage, i by no means sound like a battered wife, and i am highly offended by you implying that that's how i came across.

he is in California
its another world there
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That is horrendous. Anonymous keyboard warriors terrorising the poor woman. I hate people sometimes..
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[New Ched Evans Rape Inquiry Will Be Fast-Tracked]

Rich Dad gets his boy to the Front of the line

[A "substantive" investigation into Ched Evans' rape conviction
is expected to take place "within the next few weeks",
the Criminal Cases Review Commission has said.
The disgraced footballer, who continues to protest his innocence,
has had his case prioritised by the body,
which examines possible miscarriages of justice.]


http://news.sky.com/story/1355968/ch...e-fast-tracked

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I have read some reports on this story and am a little confused as the Police arrested both Ched and Clayton at the Station, where they both had gone to discuss the events of the previous night.

They acknowledged that the only evidence that sexual activity had taken place was their own admission. There was no complaint of Rape, no forensic evidence, no injury and no complaint.

So how did this strange situation result in a young footballer being convicted of rape and sentenced to 5 years in prison, not withstanding the fact that the other man who also admitted to having consenual sex with this woman was aquitted ???

Also this young woman wanted to have sex with the footballer and even asked the other man (clayton) to ask Ched to come up to the room for sex. she even tweeted that she was involved with a professional footballer.

So how the hell was this ever proved as rape by the footballer in a court of law by a Jury when as stated above there was no complaint of rape no injury , no forensic evidence.

How could this be proved as RAPE...??

I'm pretty sure this conviction will be challenged and ultimately overturned. This young woman is partly to blame for this and although I do not condone the behaviour of both men I fail to see how one of them could be convicted of Rape.

Strange case.
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I have read some reports on this story and am a little confused as the Police arrested both Ched and Clayton at the Station, where they both had gone to discuss the events of the previous night.

They acknowledged that the only evidence that sexual activity had taken place was their own admission. There was no complaint of Rape, no forensic evidence, no injury and no complaint.

So how did this strange situation result in a young footballer being convicted of rape and sentenced to 5 years in prison, not withstanding the fact that the other man who also admitted to having consenual sex with this woman was aquitted ???

Also this young woman wanted to have sex with the footballer and even asked the other man (clayton) to ask Ched to come up to the room for sex. she even tweeted that she was involved with a professional footballer.

So how the hell was this ever proved as rape by the footballer in a court of law by a Jury when as stated above there was no complaint of rape no injury , no forensic evidence.

How could this be proved as RAPE...??

I'm pretty sure this conviction will be challenged and ultimately overturned. This young woman is partly to blame for this and although I do not condone the behaviour of both men I fail to see how one of them could be convicted of Rape.

Strange case.

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How the fcuk is this woman scarred for life... Lol she is a fcuking slag who sleeps with footballers in the sad hope of becoming a wag.

A slapper in every sense of the word, and now this young stupid footballer has paid the ultimate price and has had his life ruined because of this woman's lies.

Still cannot believe this ever came to court and resulted in a guilty verdict wtf ???

Hope this conviction is overturned and overturned soon...!!!
Yes,This tends to be my opinion too.So many of these false rape allegations happened recently cos these girls know they can get cash from papers and mags.They should be jailed for trying to ruin peoples lives and undermining genuine rape cases.

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How the fcuk is this woman scarred for life... Lol she is a fcuking slag who sleeps with footballers in the sad hope of becoming a wag.

A slapper in every sense of the word, and now this young stupid footballer has paid the ultimate price and has had his life ruined because of this woman's lies.

Still cannot believe this ever came to court and resulted in a guilty verdict wtf ???

Hope this conviction is overturned and overturned soon...!!!
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Although I may have reservations about this case, be assured in no way do I condone the behaviour of these men who took advantage of this woman's stupid actions. They are guilty of taking advantage of this woman, but as to whether they set out that evening to rape a woman , well I would seriously doubt that also. Either way there are no winners in this case but Ched Evans is the loser here his life destroyed by the consequences of his actions that night.

Rape in the fullest sense I doubt but that is now the badge he carries around for evermore.




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I do have my reservations in cases like this, mainly because of something that happened at a party in my school year. A female friend of mine got very drunk at a party, woke up and err... "realised"... That a guy in our year lay next to her had had sex with her. She mentioned this to some people, quite horrified, saying that he had had sex with her when she had passed out drunk... Someone confronted him, He swore on his life that she was not passed out and that they were just BOTH equally drunk and it had all been consensual, and she in turn swore that she didn't / wouldn't have and all she remembers is going to the bedroom and must have passed out.

It then transpired that one of Her friends had also been in the room trying to sleep on the floor (... Classy...) And had witnessed the entire encounter, that she was awake, and that she had definitely explicitly consented.

I know the girl wasn't lying - her having huge memory gaps from nights out was pretty common so I fully believe that she couldn't remember any of it. But even she accepted that it must have been a consensual encounter after her friend described how it happened, and even started to then remember it in flashes and that she had, for want of a better phrase, been "up for it at the time", and was fine with it after that.

What does really worry me is that if there hadn't been someone else there to give an unbiased account of events, she was SO sure he had abused her in her sleep, that it could all have gone really badly.

Without another witness, when a lot of alcohol is involved, can anyone's recounting of events really be confirmed as totally accurate? Like I said it's not even about "lying". People just get things wrong.
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Don't prosecutors have to prove beyond reasonable doubt to get a guilty verdict?
There must have been sufficient evidence or he wouldn't have been found guilty, twitter hate campaigns with these online vigilantes are really unnerving.
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