[Kyle]

Originally Posted by kirklancaster

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There are diverse logical reasons why so many people believe in God (whichever God that may be) but most atheists (not all) question then refuse – usually through bigotry - to listen to the answers.

I'm sorry because I like you but I think this thread deserves to be closed from the off just because of this inflammatory remark designed to get people's backs up

Can you imagine if someone started a thread and called most Christians bigots? How long do we all think the thread would last?

This is exactly the same as when someone said they hate atheists and not a single person kicked off.

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by Kyle

I'm sorry because I like you but I think this thread deserves to be closed from the off just because of this inflammatory remark designed to get people's backs up

Can you imagine if someone started a thread and called most Christians bigots? How long do we all think the thread would last?

This is exactly the same as when someone said they hate atheists and not a single person kicked off.

I like and respect you too Kyle - genuinely, but I am only quoting my opinion based upon my experiences.

It wasn't meant to be inflammatory but in any event it pales into insignificance when compared to some of the abusive unwarranted statements made by atheists against people of faith - particularly Christians - on various threads on this very forum - let alone outside of it.

It is my birthday today, and I am a little hung-over through celebrating last night, so perhaps my mind is a little more fogged than usual, so I will edit my original post, remove the offending line, then perhaps we can have the discussion I originally sought.

[Kyle]

If it was genuinely your opinion based on your experiences Kirk you should have put 'in my opinion' in there somewhere instead of leaving it as a definitive statement mate.

I'm not offended by being labelled a potential bigot cos I don't give a sh*t, people have and will say worse, my concern was that perhaps that was designed to get atheists to react aggressively to your post, get it closed and therefore notch another win in your mind that us nasty atheists are 'bigots'.

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by Kyle

If it was genuinely your opinion based on your experiences Kirk you should have put 'in my opinion' in there somewhere instead of leaving it as a definitive statement mate.

I'm not offended by being labelled a potential bigot cos I don't give a sh*t, people have and will say worse, my concern was that perhaps that was designed to get atheists to react aggressively to your post, get it closed and therefore notch another win in your mind that us nasty atheists are 'bigots'.

Furthest thing from my mindset Kyle. I welcome a good discussion, an exchange of views, and from my experience mate, I certainly don't need to additionally 'bait' the atheist 'bulls' on here by waving any 'red flag' of controversy at the outset.

Having another thread closed is also something which I definitely do not desire - it's counter productive to the 'raison d'etre of a forum.

[Kyle]

Originally Posted by kirklancaster

Furthest thing from my mindset Kyle. I welcome a good discussion, an exchange of views, and from my experience mate, I certainly don't need to additionally 'bait' the atheist 'bulls' on here by waving any 'red flag' of controversy at the outset.

Having another thread closed is also something which I definitely do not desire - it's counter productive to the 'raison d'etre of a forum.

Out of all honesty I will mention I did something that I don't do, I reported your original post with basically what I said above. The mods should have seen it and deemed it ok by now, which is fine I defer to their judgement, so I genuinely hope you are seeking a good discussion and you get a good discussion. You might get 3 or 4 pages of it at least before it all kicks off

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by Kyle

Out of all honesty I will mention I did something that I don't do, I reported your original post with basically what I said above. The mods should have seen it and deemed it ok by now, which is fine I defer to their judgement, so I genuinely hope you are seeking a good discussion and you get a good discussion. You might get 3 or 4 pages of it at least before it all kicks off

I agree, but hopefully, we will attract quite a few other FM's - including those who normally are too timid to post their views, before it does 'kick off' (hopefully it won't).

There really is a very high level of intelligent, educated, and very knowledgeable people on this forum - really disproportionate given the fact that it is not an academics forum - and I am genuinely interested in their views, whether they disagree with mine or otherwise.

I realise that (given the results of a recent poll on here about religion) people of faith are in a minority but this should not stop them from posting on a religious subject, or invalidate that subject.

[Kyle]

Originally Posted by kirklancaster

I agree, but hopefully, we will attract quite a few other FM's - including those who normally are too timid to post their views, before it does 'kick off' (hopefully it won't).

There really is a very high level of intelligent, educated, and very knowledgeable people on this forum - really disproportionate given the fact that it is not an academics forum - and I am genuinely interested in their views, whether they disagree with mine or otherwise.

I realise that (given the results of a recent poll on here about religion) people of faith are in a minority but this should not stop them from posting on a religious subject, or invalidate that subject.

Fair play then mate, please accept my apologies for reporting your post.