[Nedusa]

This is a tough one to call , morally he should never be employed at that level reaping the huge financial rewards and celebrity status that comes with the territory, but legally he has paid his dues and since he didn't commit a football related crime there is no reason not to allow him to work as he can only earn a living playing football.

I think the club will face enormous pressure not to renew his contract do I think they are only letting him train to get him match fit so they can sell him and make some money out of their investment.

I think he go abroad for a few years until the fuss has died down and then maybe return depending on his form and ability.

However, he contests the rape conviction and there are plans to appeal with certain legal sources saying he has new evidence which may make his conviction unsafe.

Should this happen then I suggest he is going nowhere.



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[arista]

http://news.sky.com/story/1372861/je...ver-ched-evans


To Ad to what LT posted the page before

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Nedusa

This is a tough one to call , morally he should never be employed at that level reaping the huge financial rewards and celebrity status that comes with the territory, but legally he has paid his dues and since he didn't commit a football related crime there is no reason not to allow him to work as he can only earn a living playing football.

I think the club will face enormous pressure not to renew his contract do I think they are only letting him train to get him match fit so they can sell him and make some money out of their investment.

I think he go abroad for a few years until the fuss has died down and then maybe return depending on his form and ability.

However, he contests the rape conviction and there are plans to appeal with certain legal sources saying he has new evidence which may make his conviction unsafe.


Should this happen then I suggest he is going nowhere.



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Yes, also should the new evidence actually cast doubt on the conviction or clear him completely then the club will need to be careful of what they do before the result of such appeal is known.

Definitely a wait and see situation wich may yet completely turn the tide in his favour and if it is the case that new evidence does that, then rightly so too.

[Northern Monkey]

That's it,He may turn out to be innocent after his appeal,In which case he will be rightfully entitled to compo and his position at the club.

[arista]

The PM has backed what J.Ennis
has said.

[Kizzy]

Good about time someone put personal ethics before money

[Kizzy]

Paul Heaton
6 hrs ·
'It is with great regret that I announce my resignation as patron of Sheffield United Community Foundation.
I would firstly like to salute the bravery of my fellow Blades and patrons in resigning their positions and in particular Charlie Webster, Jessica Ennis-Hill and Lindsay Graham, in standing up for victims of rape everywhere.
I firmly believe that Ched Evans has the right to rebuild his career in football but rebuilding a career should not involve walking straight out of prison and into the shirt of the club he so badly let down.
I believe he needs to move away and move on, and the club itself needs to lift its reputation out of the gutter.
As a way of showing a lead to others involved in this torrid affair, I will be donating my fee from this month's Sheffield City Hall gig to Sheffield Rape Crisis Centre.
Finally, I would like to thank the Foundation for its continued hard work in the Sheffield community and wish them the very best for the future.'

Well said paul! 4th patron to resign.

[arista]

Yes so many do not want this Rapist
there

[Livia]

So what this says, in effect is... if you commit a crime, don't imagine that once you've served your sentence you can be rehabilitated back into society. Some high-profile people may use their fame to metaphorically hold their breath until they make sure your sentences continues for the rest of your life, contrary to the law of the land.

Looking forward to Jessica Ennis being a little more vocal about the drug-taking and cheating within her own discipline. But not holding my breath.

[Nedusa]

I agree , it amazes me how minor public figures who are losely connected with Sheffield Utd F.C are now all taking a holier-than-thou attitude.

The Man is a convicted rapist (although he is fighting for a re-trial) and has served time in prison, but now let's highlight his crime and climb on the publicity bandwagon and crow smugly about how we want nothing to do with this man and will take whatever action to sever all connections to this evil sexual monster.

I just think people should shut up, this man will have to carry his sins around for ever and he doesn't need his sentence to be continued publicly out of prison.





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[ChristmasNeeve]

Originally Posted by Livia

So what this says, in effect is... if you commit a crime, don't imagine that once you've served your sentence you can be rehabilitated back into society. Some high-profile people may use their fame to metaphorically hold their breath until they make sure your sentences continues for the rest of your life, contrary to the law of the land.

Looking forward to Jessica Ennis being a little more vocal about the drug-taking and cheating within her own discipline. But not holding my breath.

There's a massive difference between cheating/drug taking and being a rapist imo

I have no sympathy what so ever for a convicted rapist

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

There's a massive difference between cheating/drug taking and being a rapist imo

I have no sympathy what so ever for a convicted rapist

I don't have much sympathy for rapists myself. However, sympathy notwithstanding, the fact remains that he's served his sentence and it should not be up to high profile people to use their standing in the media to make demands of the law.

[ChristmasNeeve]

Originally Posted by Livia

I don't have much sympathy for rapists myself. However, sympathy notwithstanding, the fact remains that he's served his sentence and it should not be up to high profile people to use their standing in the media to make demands of the law.

High profile people should be allowed to decide what they do and don't want their names used for though. I say good on her

[Christmas Dynasnow]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

There's a massive difference between cheating/drug taking and being a rapist imo

I have no sympathy what so ever for a convicted rapist

and there is a massive difference in shagging some pissed up bird who decides that she did not want to have the sex she did have after she has sobered up and aggressive predatory violent rape

[ChristmasNeeve]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

and there is a massive difference in shagging some pissed up bird who decides that she did not want to have the sex she did have after she has sobered up and aggressive predatory violent rape

If you believe Ched Evans version of events yeah, I agree with the Jury though that Ched Evan is a disgusting predator and was guilty.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

If you believe Ched Evans version of events yeah, I agree with the Jury though that Ched Evan is a disgusting predator and was guilty.

..and consequently served his sentence.

[ChristmasNeeve]

Originally Posted by Livia

..and consequently served his sentence.

yes and a consequence of him being a convicted rapist is that high profile people don't want their name associated with a team he plays for

[Northern Monkey]

I'm thinking,For Sheffield UTD to be putting themselves through all this negative publicity.Maybe they know something about the new evidence for his appeal and believe there is a strong chance his charges will be thrown out.Why else would they be letting him train with them and taking all this flack.Maybe his lawyers are quietly confident for his appeal.

[Kizzy]

Nope... they paid for him and they want their moneys worth is all, guilt or innocence play no part only money.

[GypsyGoth]

I really don't think there should be anything to stop him legally from working as a footballer again. Since as far as I know he was only sentenced to prison time.

The fact that his old football club are thinking of employing him again. That's up to them and their conscience. But for sure he should be allowed to take that job if offered.

[Christmas Dynasnow]

People resent footy players because they get paid too much and are usually thick and common.

To avoid saying this try saying: but he is a role model for kids


Now it sounds better and we can hate on him with impunity

[In the Drunk Tank]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Nope... they paid for him and they want their moneys worth is all, guilt or innocence play no part only money.

Well no because his contract ended in 2012 soon after his conviction, they've paid him nothing since then and owe him nothing now

They only let him train with them following a request from the PFA

[In the Drunk Tank]

I think Paul Heaton's view is completely understandable, he strongly believes Evans has a right to play again but doesn't think that Sheffield United should take him back considering they were the club and the people most immediately let down by his actions. There is this distinction here between not playing at all and not playing for Sheffield United, the latter doesn't rule out the former.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by MTVN

Well no because his contract ended in 2012 soon after his conviction, they've paid him nothing since then and owe him nothing now

They only let him train with them following a request from the PFA

Then if they have no vested interest why on earth are they ruining the reputation of the club by having him there?... It makes no sense.

[Kyle]

Originally Posted by MTVN

I think Paul Heaton's view is completely understandable, he strongly believes Evans has a right to play again but doesn't think that Sheffield United should take him back considering they were the club and the people most immediately let down by his actions. There is this distinction here between not playing at all and not playing for Sheffield United, the latter doesn't rule out the former.

Yep, him going down pretty much cost them promotion back up to the championship. He was banging them in for the blunts and then he goes down, we sign Michail Antonio and then take their place in the second automatic spot establishing ourselves once again as Sheffield's dominant club.

Taking personal feelings aside (I despise rapists) that lad cost them big time.