[Ninastar]

Originally Posted by Benjamin

I give you this, he is, but I find him funny, I just don't get why his sexuality was brought up.

because the way he acts is an ott queeny whiney mess. how many 'straight' men act that way? he's just an annoying super flamboyant gay guy, which is what most gay guys are portrayed to be like irl, when they arent. What Michelle was saying was that she hates the fact that she's tried to prove that gay people are just like everyone else, and then Perez has to go and be some annoying, little **** and influence some people into thinking that gay men are like that.

By some, I mean people who aren't used to having sane gay people in their lives. If someone doesn't have a gay person in their lives and maybe hasn't even met a gay person, then of course they will think that they are like what they see on TV. It's sad, but it's true.

[The Human Santapede]

Originally Posted by Ninastar

because the way he acts is an ott queeny whiney mess. how many 'straight' men act that way? he's just an annoying super flamboyant gay guy, which is what most gay guys are portrayed to be like irl, when they arent. What Michelle was saying was that she hates the fact that she's tried to prove that gay people are just like everyone else, and then Perez has to go and be some annoying, little **** and influence some people into thinking that gay men are like that.

By some, I mean people who aren't used to having sane gay people in their lives. If someone doesn't have a gay person in their lives and maybe hasn't even met a gay person, then of course they will think that they are like what they see on TV. It's sad, but it's true.

Caitlin you know I'm not a massive fan of people like this usually as I find it overbearing, but I'm not going to go out of my way to actually hate people like this despite what I joke about. The fact is there are people like this in the "community", so? It's who they are. Why should they feel bad for it, and why should we make them? That is oppressive and is not what LGBT is actually about, it's about everyone who falls into that group, regardless of their personality.

[Ninastar]

Originally Posted by Benjamin

Caitlin you know I'm not a massive fan of people like this usually as I find it overbearing, but I'm not going to go out of my way to hate people like this despite what I joke about. The fact is there are people like this in the "community", so? It's who they are. Why should they feel bad for it, and why should we make them? That is oppressive and is not what LGBT is actually about, it's about everyone who falls into that group, regardless of their personality.

I don't care about people who actually are like this, because they are real. Perez isn't. All he wants is camera time and he doesn't care who he upsets. I'm not in any way suggesting that anyone should feel bad for being themselves, like I said, I don't really care, be the person you are. But what I hate is a fake attention ***** making some people look bad and it's not fair.

[The Human Santapede]

Originally Posted by Ninastar

I don't care about people who actually are like this, because they are real. Perez isn't. All he wants is camera time and he doesn't care who he upsets. I'm not in any way suggesting that anyone should feel bad for being themselves, like I said, I don't really care, be the person you are. But what I hate is a fake attention ***** making some people look bad and it's not fair.

But my point is you do get people like this in the "community". We both know this. They act up as that is their personality trait.

[Ninastar]

Originally Posted by Benjamin

But my point is you do get people like this in the "community". We both know this. They act up as that is their personality trait.

But these people aren't celebrities who can have an influence on people's thoughts

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Ninastar

But these people aren't celebrities who can have an influence on people's thoughts

Then surely the issue is with the people who see individuals as representative of a whole group of society rather than a separate person of their own, regardless of whether they're putting on an act or not. Straight people can act up too.

[chuff me dizzy]

Hes an embarrassment to the human race

[The Human Santapede]

Originally Posted by Ninastar

But these people aren't celebrities who can have an influence on people's thoughts

Same could be applied to most straight celebs. And just to clarify, people like Rylan and most media portrayals of gays are fine and not stereotypical?