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Drew. · 30-01-2015, 10:20 PM

I didn't see it, innocent

Lampfan · 30-01-2015, 10:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Amy Jade

People do a lot of things in the heat of the moment and still deserve to be punished.

I don't agree it was just a silly off the cuff comment though because he said it over and over again because even when others told him to stop.

It wasn't off the cuff. It was anger. When angered people tend to repeatedly shout things.

Denver · 30-01-2015, 10:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Vanessa

Perez went way over the line but people have to know that Katie, Callum and Cami are ganging up to provoke him.

That is a very very poor excuse

Withano · 30-01-2015, 10:21 PM

Wished I saw this now, Perez haters are saying it was awful and Perez lovers saying it was fine? Any non-biased opinions? Can't stand to watch a show with Rylan.

Cherie · 30-01-2015, 10:21 PM

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Originally Posted by D_LO_

To bring rape into this is completely farcical and shows the depths some people will resort to. It's a very, very cheap, shameful way to try and score points especially considering it's such a serious subject. Outside of the house it's a non-issue most of the time and an insult plenty of us have probably heard. Obviously in the house freedom of speech is more censored so a warning is appropriate but please don't try and suggest 'rape' was ever on the cards or at the fore front of Perez's intentions. Any rational person can see from that altercation there was no suggestion at all of this.

You have a much more creditable argument if you steer clear of 'rape' and focus on the vulgarity and decency of what Perez said. Sensible people would probably accept that and not even enter a debate on the matter. There's a real lack of perspective which is magnified ten-fold when Perez is involved however.

Re. Nadia 'accepting'/'justifying' the behaviour, she did not actually offer an opinion at all (I'm sure she would be criticised for getting involved if she did, oh the hypocrisy) All she stated was that Katie H instigated the argument. This cannot be confirmed or denied from the brief footage but lets face it Callum isn't easily manipulated nor has he never been wound up by Katie H

(Not justifying Perez's behaviour who did himself no favours and was clearly 'most' in the wrong but I would suggest the others are far from being white than white themselves either)

Also for the record I doubt this would even make the top 5 most contentious moments in the house this year.

Welcome, quite an entrance

Denver · 30-01-2015, 10:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Withano

Wished I saw this now, Perez haters are saying it was awful and Perez lovers saying it was fine? Any non-biased opinions? Can't stand to watch a show with Rylan.

I think Lampfan is the only Perez fan to see the truth

bots · 30-01-2015, 10:21 PM

but this isnt the first time he has crossed the line, the sexual thing he said to KH that he got a warning for but was not shown is another example. He shouldn't be in the house if Ken got kicked out

rubymoo · 30-01-2015, 10:22 PM

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Originally Posted by adamski94

So its ok to sexual assault someone because your not in control of your emotions?

Definitely not, but there is sexual assault in the world, and maybe those people can't control themselves, the people who do this are scumbags, and deserve the most severe of punishments, but i wouldn't put Perez as a person who has sexually assaulted anyone.

Marsh. · 30-01-2015, 10:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Cherie

Bit of a tongue twister

Filth.

Tom4784 · 30-01-2015, 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Vanessa

You must be seriously messed up if you think calling someone a dick justifies a rape threat.

Pink Pegasus · 30-01-2015, 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Withano

Wished I saw this now, Perez haters are saying it was awful and Perez lovers saying it was fine? Any non-biased opinions? Can't stand to watch a show with Rylan.

I don't know if I'm a Perez lover but he has been my 3rd or sometimes 4th fav, I usually find him amusing. I'm not a Calum fan and never have been.

I think Perez went too far, was in the wrong and deserved a warning.

I don't think he was threatening to literally rape anybody though.

Denver · 30-01-2015, 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by rubymoo

Definitely not, but there is sexual assault in the world, and maybe those people can't control themselves, the people who do this are scumbags, and deserve the most severe of punishments, but i wouldn't put Perez as a person who has sexually assaulted anyone.

This is insinuating that he would do that

Miranda123 · 30-01-2015, 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by adamski94

He should have been removed

he said he will shove his dick up his arse

according to most of the HM's view of the Pervs dick, Calum wouldnt have felt a thing!

Vanessa · 30-01-2015, 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Dezzy

You must be seriously messed up if you think calling someone a dick justifies a rape threat.

It wasn't.

Kazanne · 30-01-2015, 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by adamski94

That is a very very poor excuse

No surprise though is it really,it's been happening all the way through the show

Lampfan · 30-01-2015, 10:24 PM

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Originally Posted by rubymoo

I agree with you, but i really don't think Calum would have perceived it as a threat or a danger to his being. I think it started off as an off the cuff comment, but ended up as a bit of peacocking!

Yes, I do wonder if some people have ever been in a heated altercation before. They've lived very sheltered lives or are just desperate to be offended by someone they dont like.

joeysteele · 30-01-2015, 10:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Vanessa

Perez went way over the line but people have to know that Katie, Callum and Cami are ganging up to provoke him.

Therein lies a very telling statement from you Vanessa,Calum hates Perez, and has been itching for an opportunity to get at him because Calum 'likes' Cami,while Perez detests her and constantly puts her down.

Katie Hopkins as a housemate is just about the only housemate I have ever come across in any CBB/BB series that can do and say anything and never be called up on any of it,no matter how offensive it is.

Unbelievable.

Vanessa · 30-01-2015, 10:25 PM

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Originally Posted by joeysteele

Therein lies a very telling statement from you Vanessa,Calum hates Perez, and has been itching for an opportunity to get at him because Calum 'likes' Cami,while Perez detests her and constantly puts her down.

Katie Hopkins as a housemate is just about the only housemate I have ever come across in any CBB/BB series that can do and say anything and never be called up on any of it,no matter how offensive it is.

Unbelievable.

Tom4784 · 30-01-2015, 10:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Vanessa

It wasn't.

If Perez did say that then it's a threat, if Calum didn't want it to happen then it's rape. It's pretty simple.

Denver · 30-01-2015, 10:25 PM

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Originally Posted by joeysteele

Therein lies a very telling statement from you Vanessa,Calum hates Perez, and has been itching for an opportunity to get at him because Calum 'likes' Cami,while Perez detests her and constantly puts her down.

Katie Hopkins as a housemate is just about the only housemate I have ever come across in any CBB/BB series that can do and say anything and never be called up on any of it,no matter how offensive it is.

Unbelievable.

Stop trying to justify it