[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

Likewise Kirk, I don't disagree with anything from you in your post above, in fact in many of your posts overall on tibb I agree with a lot you say.

Your sentence above that says 'the big stick hits the wrong targets' is totally correct,I agree with that and that is what I come across all the time at present as to the most vulnerable on benefits.
Which is why the policies being enacted and also just about all this govts; ideas are not planned fairly with understanding and compassion.
When that is the case, with such really bad policy making,then the last people that should be hit are the most vulnerable.

I agree with you, although it seems on the surface we disagree, that a lot of the time,maybe we would like to see the same result.
I admit for my sins, I was dismissive in the past up to being 19,as to welfare and benefit issues,I supported this govts; plan to simplify them and even hold back rises for a time too.
However now at 23 I see what they have done and the way they have done it,which is for me 100% unacceptable and also for me beyond any forgiving too for it.

Thank you for your reply above, there we are, 2 posts with total agreement,hey that is pretty good going on here.
I do also see that you ,like myself, and a great many others, would love to see all benefit cheating ended.

My point to that is, with it actually in all truth being so small, it will probably in the end cost more than it saves to try to eradicate it.
While it should always be looked for, investigated and dealt with, it should not be the passionate all consuming demonisation and victimisation which this govts; efforts as to it have resulted in happening overall.

A brilliant and reasoned response Joey and I sincerely thank you for it. I am too often under fire and outnumbered on here when it is genuine misconception of what I am really saying which is the problem If only all discussions which start out at with 'seemingly' opposing views could end like this.