[arista]

"What is the point in this account? It only seems to be used for mods to hide their identity. "


Jess you are being Silly
they work as one

Admin direct them

[Jessica.]

Originally Posted by andybigbro

You can explain yourselves, but us mods don't see the TiBB staff return messages, so pm a mod or admin directly and it will get discussed in the towers if need be.

A great method would be:

"Did you really mean it when you told Marsh he has squinty eyes?"
"No, I was joking, he knows that"
"Well I got a report, it seems to have offended someone"
"Oh sorry, I'll delete it, I won't tell him he has squinty eyes any more"

Verus

Dear Jessica.,

You have received an infraction at ThisisBigBrother.com - UK TV Forums.

Reason: Completely nasty and rude comment about another member
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How dare you think you have a right to say a member has squinty eyes, there is no need at all for this nasty behaviour.
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If you have too many infractions you may receive a posting ban.

All the best,
ThisisBigBrother.com - UK TV Forums

[Smithy]

Tbh I think the infraction system is a bit messy, and I hope this thread stays open so that we can discuss it like adults rather than someone close it because they don't like that members are wanting to have something change

I think the fact that there's no clear infraction system makes the whole thing a bit redundant, someone could get 1 point for baiting and someone else 2 points (because they were given by different mods) and the second person knocked into a ban because of it, I think we should be able to see the amount of points given and there should be a full list of infractionable offences and the # of points given when they're commited

It's really annoying when mods say "if xxx carries on I'm giving out straight bans" in no way is that ever fair and I've never seen it done on any other forums, I wouldn't have a problem with TiBB staff if there was a system like I mentioned before, because then you know even if a mod dislikes you, you're only getting the set amount of points rather than them upping it (even slightly) because they dislike you

I know what I'm trying to say but it's not coming out properly

[Fetch The Bolt Cutters]

i have only ever reported one person

[Locke.]

Doesn't really matter does it, you are back on now and can post whatever you wanted to post while you were banned.

[Jessica.]

Originally Posted by Locke.

Doesn't really matter does it, you are back on now and can post whatever you wanted to post while you were banned.

I already said I don't care about my ban, this is not what it's about.

[Locke.]

p.s I'm not sure what you were actually banned for but you deserved to be for the way you were speaking to Mock a few days back

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by Smithy

Tbh I think the infraction system is a bit messy, and I hope this thread stays open so that we can discuss it like adults rather than someone close it because they don't like that members are wanting to have something change

I think the fact that there's no clear infraction system makes the whole thing a bit redundant, someone could get 1 point for baiting and someone else 2 points (because they were given by different mods) and the second person knocked into a ban because of it, I think we should be able to see the amount of points given and there should be a full list of infractionable offences and the # of points given when they're commited

It's really annoying when mods say "if xxx carries on I'm giving out straight bans" in no way is that ever fair and I've never seen it done on any other forums, I wouldn't have a problem with TiBB staff if there was a system like I mentioned before, because then you know even if a mod dislikes you, you're only getting the set amount of points rather than them upping it (even slightly) because they dislike you

I know what I'm trying to say but it's not coming out properly

Yes, because this ALWAYS happens. Its not because for some reason or other a couple of members have to start sniping constantly in decent threads

We don't have access to the tibb staff account, everything goes automatically through it. We dont think 'oh I want to give someone I hate an infraction but if I do it they will know its me so lets hide'. I get emails when someone PMs tibb staff...but I also get emails from every report that gets made, so I'm sure you can imagine, I have set my tibb emails to go right to spam I'm not reading through 50+ messages a day full of rubbish

If someone sends a proper reply to the account, james/josy let us know. They do not, however, pass on messages such as 'omgz this is bias, its not fair, X has a grudge' and other crap like that

[Shaun]

Idk why people care tbh

[Vicky.]

And yeah the systems a bit messy, but ANYTHING that requires human judgement is. The only way for it to be completely fair really is to have only one person modding the entire forum. Even a set (3 points for insult) wouldnt work, as then someone could say 'foxysarah is fat' while someone else said 'i hope elproximo drowns in a vat of acid while pins fly into his eyes' and then would both recieve the same points

[Smithy]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

Yes, because this ALWAYS happens. Its not because for some reason or other a couple of members have to start sniping constantly in decent threads

Well either way I just hope the thread stays open so that people's queries are answered

[Smithy]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

And yeah the systems a bit messy, but ANYTHING that requires human judgement is. The only way for it to be completely fair really is to have only one person modding the entire forum. Even a set (3 points for insult) wouldnt work, as then someone could say 'foxysarah is fat' while someone else said 'i hope elproximo drowns in a vat of acid while pins fly into his eyes' and then would both recieve the same points

Well this is a point system from another site I use and I think it works pretty well

Spoiler:

Warning Details

Abrasive — 1 point, expires in 30 days
Your comment was rude and/or hurtful to other members or staff.

Disruptive — 1 point, expires in 30 days
- Spamming gifs/images/smileys/random keys
- Posting a pointless thread or too many times in a row
- Intentionally using a fake or misleading thread title
- Using all caps in a thread title

Profanity — 1 point, expires in 30 days
You've circumvented the profanity censor by swapping letters for symbols, spaces, etc.

Flamebait — 1 point, expires in 30 days
You have started a thread or posted a reply that just seems to be fishing for an argument.

Insensitive — 1 point, expires in 30 days
Even if you might not realize it, what you said was mean to a particular group of people.

Nicknames — 1 point, expires in 30 days
You have mangled the name of a celebrity, public figure, brand or ATRL member into a stan name or a hater name.
Allowed: Honorary titles and shortened names such as "Queen Britney", "Legend X", "Princess Ri", etc
Not allowed: Over the top mangling or disrespectful names such as "Godga", "Successica Legendson", "Rihtard", etc

Off Topic — 1 point, expires in 30 days
Either you posted something irrelevant to the thread, or posted a thread in the wrong forum.

Fighting — 2 points, expires in 60 days
Arguing with someone in a thread instead of taking it to Stand Your Ground or your blog.

Offensive — 2 points, expires in 60 days
You've said something racist, homophobic, or otherwise discriminatory.

Trolling — 2 points, expires in 60 days
Specifically and deliberately posting something with the intent to make people mad.

File Share Request — 2 points, expires in 60 days
You have requested a link to an illegal download or an illegal download website.

Infringement — 2 points, expires in 60 days
You've posted an entire article without proper consent from the author or you did not properly link to and credit the source.

Graphic — 2 points, expires in 60 days
You've posted content that's either extremely violent or otherwise discomforting. Violent/discomforting content can be posted if it's collapsed and warning tagged.

Vulgar — 2 points, expires in 60 days
Your post or signature contains sexually explicit or suggestive content.

Explicit — 3 points, expires in 90 days
You've posted an explicit image without linking it inside [warning] and [url] tags or your avatar and/or signature contains excessively vulgar content.

File Sharing — 4 points, expires in 120 days
You have posted a link to an illegal download, illegal download website, or you have posted copyrighted material. Quoting posts that contain links to illegal downloads is also strictly prohibited.

Duplicate — 3 points, 3 month ban, never expires
We've discovered that you have a duplicate account and are carrying on a second persona.

Spam — Permanent ban

(Some of them might be irrelevant bc it's a music forum but still, it works a lot better than the ones on here

[MTVN]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

Yes, because this ALWAYS happens. Its not because for some reason or other a couple of members have to start sniping constantly in decent threads

We don't have access to the tibb staff account, everything goes automatically through it. We dont think 'oh I want to give someone I hate an infraction but if I do it they will know its me so lets hide'. I get emails when someone PMs tibb staff...but I also get emails from every report that gets made, so I'm sure you can imagine, I have set my tibb emails to go right to spam I'm not reading through 50+ messages a day full of rubbish

If someone sends a proper reply to the account, james/josy let us know. They do not, however, pass on messages such as 'omgz this is bias, its not fair, X has a grudge' and other crap like that

Aha ok I didn't realise this actually because all mail from TiBB goes to a separate folder which currently has 3862 unread messages

[Smithy]

But seriously back on topic can a mod respond to my posts please

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by Smithy

Duplicate — 3 points, 3 month ban, never expires
We've discovered that you have a duplicate account and are carrying on a second persona.

I like this. I always thought we were too lax on multis...

[Vicky.]

Anyway, I would be up for a change to the infraction system tbh.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

I like this. I always thought we were too lax on multis...

I love in-mod fighting.

[arista]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

Anyway, I would be up for a change to the infraction system tbh.

will that help with the amount of mail
you have to read?

[Smithy]

ALSO can we get actual reasons for infractions, I'm reading through my previous ones and the amount "Reason: No"'s is ridiculous, it just isn't that professional, which I think it should be if you're going to bother having a "middle man" which is TiBB staff

[Jessica.]

Thanks to all of the mods who have contributed to this thread, I expected it to just flop but I was pleasantly surprised.

Shame on the derailers.

[Smithy]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

I like this. I always thought we were too lax on multis...

Originally Posted by Marsh.

Breaking the swear filter - *checks Smithy's list* - 1 point infraction.

See, the system works

There'd be no more complaints too about bias modding, because everything is there in black and white about why you'll be infracted and how harsh it'll be

[arista]

Originally Posted by Smithy

ALSO can we get actual reasons for infractions, I'm reading through my previous ones and the amount "Reason: No"'s is ridiculous, it just isn't that professional, which I think it should be if you're going to bother having a "middle man" which is TiBB staff

thats your view


Dramatic.


TIBB Staff
do a top job


If I buy this Forum
all staff are going to get a One Off Cash
Payment (Tax Free) gift

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by Smithy

See, the system works

There'd be no more complaints too about bias modding, because everything is there in black and white about why you'll be infracted and how harsh it'll be

Yes but theres still the issue of stuff like, lets take the swear filter...

X says 'this is ****' breaking the filter

Y says 'you stupid motherfcking c unt, fcking dickheading wankface cumstain'

Both should get one points? Personally I don't think thats fair either

[Jessica.]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

Yes but theres still the issue of stuff like, lets take the swear filter...

X says 'this is ****' breaking the filter

Y says 'you stupid motherfcking c unt, fcking dickheading wankface cumstain'

Both should get one points? Personally I don't think thats fair either

One is just breaking the swear filter, the other counts as breaking the swear filter AND insulting someone, so they should get the points for both things?

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

Yes but theres still the issue of stuff like, lets take the swear filter...

X says 'this is ****' breaking the filter

Y says 'you stupid motherfcking c unt, fcking dickheading wankface cumstain'

Both should get one points? Personally I don't think thats fair either

Yes but the difference there is that X has simply broken the swear filter, Y would be breaking the swear filter AND attacking another member so the points build up.

I should be a mod tbh. Everyone would be getting a dozen charges for one post.