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Right,AnnieK and Smudgie, I always respect others views but if I think they are wrong views then I will obviously keep on with my own.

I have made very strong, true and valid points that cannot in my view, be fairly challenged but get a curt response and off topic ones at times too.
That is fine, I deal with that by re-iterationg my own points as I have always done.
I see no reason why you felt any need to raise this issue between arista and myself anyway.
I have no problem at all with anyones opinions but I believe in fairness which is why I balance all my posts as much as I can.

My issue with arista,and I took it to him in a pm yesterday,(which clearly turned out to be a further waste of my time), was I felt by doing that now sorted out.
However he chose today to pull me up on saying I was not going to post on a particular thread,he continued this today, not myself.

My issue is with him, no one else and once I pointed out his error this morning, he made a sort of climbdown,which he then added more fueling to afterwards, despite my acceptance of what he had said, expressing my appreciation and also apologising for getting picky myyself.
He has chosen to carry it on again, not me.

I am not being hard on anyone but neither am I stupid, I know when something is wrong and I will never defend a wrong.

No one else needed to be involved in this at all, I took exception to arista,I took it to pm, as we are told to do, it seemed settled,until he carried it on today, coming at me on another thread with something totally related to a different thread.

I am dismayed at the reactions of some on tibb, I have jumped in and defended many who were being got at wrongly in the past that they have been grateful for too.
However, I am not going to be followed around on thread after thread being pulled up for saying I was not going to post on a particular thread,as has been done today.

Kizzy, really however,please don't get yourself into difficulty or bother on my behalf, I appreciate your efforts,I have done that myself for others.
However, you make amazingly strong posts in your posts, backed up by facts and really in effect you could be speaking for me on here anyway were I not to be on.
You can really speak for me in full really.

Some have only come on to comment that I am being hard on people,then to pull Kizzy up for saying something in my defence,unbelievable.

I am fed up of the lot of it, I am really busy myself at present anyway and do not need this on here but it was between myself and arista.
I took it as I said to pm yesterday,as we are told to do and that should have been the end of it all and I thought it was too.
He was the one who continued it today on here however, and I am not prepared to, or going to, play his game.

Thank you Kizzy, by the way.
Don't worry about me and please don't get yourself into any bother on my behalf but a sincere thank you for your kind words and defence.

It is unbelievable that I as a member can make a long post summarising their opinion and observations on an issue,adding that because all seemed to be going round in circles that was their last word on the subject as I did,not needing to say any more even in reality on the issue too after that post,to then have to be hounded for saying and doing that elsewhere by someone else who until that point hadn't posted on the topic in hand there.

Just get on with it arista but annoy someone else, not me, and preferably,if I may suggest, off here, so that its not another member who gets the nonsense.

No wonder Josy made a thread as to serious debates difficulties, I apologise 100% to Josy for this from me today, I did however really try to have this sorted last night in private messaging but then found I had to deal with same again today on here.

I should not have to put up with that and I also will not, and should have the right to say so too.