[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Nedusa

I think most men are driven to suicide by women.

From wives or ex wives to ex partners , mother in laws, nasty sisters or uncaring delinquent daughters.

But mostly the way the law is so stacked in favour of the mother with no regard for the fathers rights especially with regard to the children. This I think is one of the main factors certainly in older men for taking that downward spiral which can lead to suicide.

Men are seen as tougher than women but the reality is that women are a far tougher species mentally than men.

I don't believe that at all, you can't blame any one sex for how another feels.
Depression that leads to suicide will have 1001 different combinations for each individual, yes their relationships with the women in their lives may have a factor in some but by no means most.
I believe it's down to conditioning, if you are a naturally resilient and strong willed individual then you will be better place to deal with whatever life throws at you. If you are on the other hand fatalistic then by the rules of existentialism you are at a serious disadvantage.

[Vanessa]

Life is hard. We all have our up and downs, but i think men are less likey to talk about their feelings.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

Life is hard. We all have our up and downs, but i think men are less likey to talk about their feelings.

less likely?

mostly not at all

[the truth]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

less likely?

mostly not at all

because they have NO ONE to talk to....there is no support structure barely any charities d women are programmed frankly not to listen or care a damn what men say...theyre like an army of brainwashed feminists who simply want to take everything and give nothing back.

almost every friend I have has been screwed over by a women either financially emotionally or in several cases having their children taken away and b;locked from seeing them...one particular friend married for a year...he bought a 250,000 house spent 50,000 in a year, then she was pregnant.....when the baby reached 1, the wife changed the locks threw all his stuff in the trash he returns home and the police are called....

before anyone even suggests it hes the nicest most harmless bloke ever....shes having an affair....a few weeks later the lover moves in.....
ok so my mate is then on his mothers couch still paying the mortgage, the car loan, the heating bills, towards the baby etc

she then takes an injunction out to stop him seeing the baby because he has bad eyesight? he spent 5000 clearing up that nonsense and now after a few years finally he gets the boy at weekends

this happens all day every day


the lies of feminism have trained women to believe theve all been raped and pillaged and exploited by all men who are all evil potential rapists..believing this utter nonsense black and white doctrine of male hate bigotry is it any surprise we see women as self centred ruthless and frankly frightening as they now are in this country.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

I don't believe that at all, you can't blame any one sex for how another feels.
Depression that leads to suicide will have 1001 different combinations for each individual, yes their relationships with the women in their lives may have a factor in some but by no means most.
I believe it's down to conditioning, if you are a naturally resilient and strong willed individual then you will be better place to deal with whatever life throws at you. If you are on the other hand fatalistic then by the rules of existentialism you are at a serious disadvantage.

Blaming the opposite sex or "feminazis" as the OP suggests is not helpful.

[Nedusa]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Blaming the opposite sex or "feminazis" as the OP suggests is not helpful.

Er....No...If you took the time to read the OP you would see quite a few of the reasons that may lead men down this road to possible suicide are situations almost always involving women especially mothers and especially where there are children involved.

It is perhaps a little trite to say blaming women is not helpful but through the thoughtless, callous and sometimes downright evil actions of thousands of women , some men can end up on a path to despair.

Especially with the law courts somehow badly out of touch with mens rights as this exacerbates the terrible predicament a lotof men find themselves in.

I'm not proud of the way some of my fellow women treat men especially in divorce scenarios where children are involved.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Nedusa

Er....No...If you took the time to read the OP you would see quite a few of the reasons that may lead men down this road to possible suicide are situations almost always involving women especially mothers and especially where there are children involved.

It is perhaps a little trite to say blaming women is not helpful but through the thoughtless, callous and sometimes downright evil actions of thousands of women , some men can end up on a path to despair.

Especially with the law courts somehow badly out of touch with mens rights as this exacerbates the terrible predicament a lotof men find themselves in.

I'm not proud of the way some of my fellow women treat men especially in divorce scenarios where children are involved.

I completely agree that "some" women don't behave well in divorce situations when it comes to their children, I am also aware that "some" men behave equally badly.

We are all individuals, attacking the whole gender isn't helpful imo. I completely agree that laws concerning parental rights need updating to come in line with changing times and roles that mothers and fathers play in their childrens lives. That's not "womens" faults, that's governments faults for ignoring fathers rights groups and not dealing with this situation.

[the truth]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

I completely agree that "some" women don't behave well in divorce situations when it comes to their children, I am also aware that "some" men behave equally badly.

We are all individuals, attacking the whole gender isn't helpful imo. I completely agree that laws concerning parental rights need updating to come in line with changing times and roles that mothers and fathers play in their childrens lives. That's not "womens" faults, that's governments faults for ignoring fathers rights groups and not dealing with this situation.

the the law and the culture is biased in favour of women over men , mothers over fathers, then the whole system falls apart....the las HAS GOT TO BE IMPARTIAL...there should be NO BIAS WHATSOEVER TOWARDS mothers yet there is? in the end fathers suffer but kids suffer even worse....theyre young impressionable and powerless to change the course of events

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by the truth

the the law and the culture is biased in favour of women over men , mothers over fathers, then the whole system falls apart....the las HAS GOT TO BE IMPARTIAL...there should be NO BIAS WHATSOEVER TOWARDS mothers yet there is? in the end fathers suffer but kids suffer even worse....theyre young impressionable and powerless to change the course of events

I actually agree with you completely, I'm speaking with experience of Irish law but I'm assuming British law is pretty similar. The laws were made at a time when, for the most part, women didn't work and were pretty much their children's primary care givers. Times have changed, mothers work now much more and fathers are much more hands in with their children but family law has stayed where it was. It's really does need to change

[the truth]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

I don't believe that at all, you can't blame any one sex for how another feels.
Depression that leads to suicide will have 1001 different combinations for each individual, yes their relationships with the women in their lives may have a factor in some but by no means most.
I believe it's down to conditioning, if you are a naturally resilient and strong willed individual then you will be better place to deal with whatever life throws at you. If you are on the other hand fatalistic then by the rules of existentialism you are at a serious disadvantage.

kizzy is 100% correct. its the bias in favour of women in this country that is ultimately destroying men...ask yourself if you could live happily in your 50s losing everything you love and all that you've worked for and stood for...after losing your children, your home your wife your life savings and in many cases your reputation too? this country is disgustingly sexist against all men.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by the truth

kizzy is 100% correct. its the bias in favour of women in this country that is ultimately destroying men...ask yourself if you could live happily in your 50s losing everything you love and all that you've worked for and stood for...after losing your children, your home your wife your life savings and in many cases your reputation too? this country is disgustingly sexist against all men.

Sorry, that's not what I said.

[the truth]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Sorry, that's not what I said.

I didn't say you did????????

[Redway]

It's such a shame. I'm pretty sure males are much more prone to the likes of alcoholism, drug addiction and schizophrenia as well as suicide so clearly stupid terms like 'be a man' drive us into more severe conditions than women.

[the truth]

Originally Posted by Redway

It's such a shame. I'm pretty sure males are much more prone to the likes of alcoholism, drug addiction and schizophrenia as well as suicide so clearly stupid terms like 'be a man' drive us into more severe conditions than women.

and yet they get no funding no empathy no government support not even any attention for this disaster? as usual in this dumbed down country, the squeaking wheel gets the grease...so these suicidal men get no help at all before jumping off the top of a car park, those crucial funds are syphoned off to pay for womens liposuctions and plastic tits? talk about messed up priorites

[Livia]

Originally Posted by the truth

and yet they get no funding no empathy no government support not even any attention for this disaster? as usual in this dumbed down country, the squeaking wheel gets the grease...so these suicidal men get no help at all before jumping off the top of a car park, those crucial funds are syphoned off to pay for womens liposuctions and plastic tits? talk about messed up priorites

It's not only women who have cosmetic surgery. You're casting all women as monsters and all men as poor victims when it just isn't true! If that man had approached his doctor he would have got the same attention as a woman would. I have a male friend who's bipolar and who gets exemplary treatment on the NHS despite having a penis. I can guarantee you that all the women on this site that I know have loved a man, have cared for him and worried about him and wanted the best for him. Be that a father, a brother, a husband, a boyfriend... And if you can't see that, honestly... I feel a little sorry for you.

[Redway]

Originally Posted by the truth

and yet they get no funding no empathy no government support not even any attention for this disaster? as usual in this dumbed down country, the squeaking wheel gets the grease...so these suicidal men get no help at all before jumping off the top of a car park, those crucial funds are syphoned off to pay for womens liposuctions and plastic tits? talk about messed up priorites

Agreeing that there's a huge gender inequality in some health conditions/complications doesn't mean I subscribe to your ridiculous blatantly misogynistic ideologies.