[ChristmasNeeve]

Originally Posted by Nedusa

Er....No...If you took the time to read the OP you would see quite a few of the reasons that may lead men down this road to possible suicide are situations almost always involving women especially mothers and especially where there are children involved.

It is perhaps a little trite to say blaming women is not helpful but through the thoughtless, callous and sometimes downright evil actions of thousands of women , some men can end up on a path to despair.

Especially with the law courts somehow badly out of touch with mens rights as this exacerbates the terrible predicament a lotof men find themselves in.

I'm not proud of the way some of my fellow women treat men especially in divorce scenarios where children are involved.

I completely agree that "some" women don't behave well in divorce situations when it comes to their children, I am also aware that "some" men behave equally badly.

We are all individuals, attacking the whole gender isn't helpful imo. I completely agree that laws concerning parental rights need updating to come in line with changing times and roles that mothers and fathers play in their childrens lives. That's not "womens" faults, that's governments faults for ignoring fathers rights groups and not dealing with this situation.

[the truth]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

I completely agree that "some" women don't behave well in divorce situations when it comes to their children, I am also aware that "some" men behave equally badly.

We are all individuals, attacking the whole gender isn't helpful imo. I completely agree that laws concerning parental rights need updating to come in line with changing times and roles that mothers and fathers play in their childrens lives. That's not "womens" faults, that's governments faults for ignoring fathers rights groups and not dealing with this situation.

the the law and the culture is biased in favour of women over men , mothers over fathers, then the whole system falls apart....the las HAS GOT TO BE IMPARTIAL...there should be NO BIAS WHATSOEVER TOWARDS mothers yet there is? in the end fathers suffer but kids suffer even worse....theyre young impressionable and powerless to change the course of events

[ChristmasNeeve]

Originally Posted by the truth

the the law and the culture is biased in favour of women over men , mothers over fathers, then the whole system falls apart....the las HAS GOT TO BE IMPARTIAL...there should be NO BIAS WHATSOEVER TOWARDS mothers yet there is? in the end fathers suffer but kids suffer even worse....theyre young impressionable and powerless to change the course of events

I actually agree with you completely, I'm speaking with experience of Irish law but I'm assuming British law is pretty similar. The laws were made at a time when, for the most part, women didn't work and were pretty much their children's primary care givers. Times have changed, mothers work now much more and fathers are much more hands in with their children but family law has stayed where it was. It's really does need to change