[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by the truth

he has a vile personality is thoroughly ignorant and always plays the false outrage card

Sorry but in my view that is just totally wrong.

[the truth]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

Sorry but in my view that is just totally wrong.

ok that's your view, my view will be proved 100% correct over time

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by the truth

ok that's your view, my view will be proved 100% correct over time

I am sure it will not be,sorry to be so blunt.

[the truth]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

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I am sure it will not be,sorry to be so blunt.

no offence taken

[Kizzy]

'He’s been touted as the “British Obama”, (although it’s allegedly a tagline that came from his own office) but in reality, he’s the last thing Labour needs. Situated to the right of Ed Miliband, Umunna – who describes himself as “Blue Labour” – is seen by Blairites as the man to bring back all the Tory voters who didn’t trust Labour this time round. However, this genius plan of simply becoming more like the Tories just won’t work, as there’s already a party that does this expertly: the Tories.'


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http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/...-10247245.html

[the truth]

its not left or right ...it comes down to the individual issues

[MTVN]

He has now withdrawn from the leadership contest

[Pete.]

[arista]

He has now Withdrawn from being a leader

Live SkyNewsHD

[Ross.]

Erm

[bots]

It simply means that he has something dodgy in his past that he has been told will likely come out if he continues with his bid to be leader. People don't have a turnaround that quick unless some sort of threat has been made.

[arista]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

It simply means that he has something dodgy in his past that he has been told will likely come out if he continues with his bid to be leader. People don't have a turnaround that quick unless some sort of threat has been made.

yes Front Page weekend
maybe


http://news.sky.com/story/1484585/ch...leadership-bid

[smudgie]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

It simply means that he has something dodgy in his past that he has been told will likely come out if he continues with his bid to be leader. People don't have a turnaround that quick unless some sort of threat has been made.

Hmmmm, could be, either that or not enough people are prepared to nominate him.
Personally I fancy Liz Kendal for the job.

[joeysteele]

I think it is hard to measure at first how much pressure will be brought into play when you seek the leadership of a party, it is likely why few who would make really good leaders actually do throw themselves into the contest.

He said he would run but had until June 10th I believe it is,to be fully confirmed as a candidate.
If little has been found against him in a whole election campaign as when he could have been the possible future Business secretary, then I doubt there is much to find in his life that would be really damaging.
The Sun, Mail and Telegraph could have easily done so,so that is an unfair presumption I would say.

He has withdrawn quickly, I am sad as to that.
However if he has already had the vision of how much his life is to be turned totally upside down,coupled with the announcement yesterday that it will be a 'longer' campaign for leader,rather than a short one,taking until September now.
That may have had him think, whoa,enough is enough.

He can actually,in my view, do a greater job, probably bringing businesses back to Labour as Shadow Business secretary than maybe he could ever do as Leader.

Plenty time also now too, for another chance to come in the future for him too.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by smudgie

Hmmmm, could be, either that or not enough people are prepared to nominate him.
Personally I fancy Liz Kendal for the job.

This is just possibly who they will go for now.I actually like her too.

[MTVN]

[Crimson Dynamo]

he has just pulled out

mg:

[bots]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

I think it is hard to measure at first how much pressure will be brought into play when you seek the leadership of a party, it is likely why few who would make really good leaders actually do throw themselves into the contest.

He said he would run but had until June 10th I believe it is,to be fully confirmed as a candidate.
If little has been found against him in a whole election campaign as when he could have been the possible future Business secretary, then I doubt there is much to find in his life that would be really damaging.
The Sun, Mail and Telegraph could have easily done so,so that is an unfair presumption I would say.

He has withdrawn quickly, I am sad as to that.
However if he has already had the vision of how much his life is to be turned totally upside down,coupled with the announcement yesterday that it will be a 'longer' campaign for leader,rather than a short one,taking until September now.
That may have had him think, whoa,enough is enough.

He can actually,in my view, do a greater job, probably bringing businesses back to Labour as Shadow Business secretary than maybe he could ever do as Leader.

Plenty time also now too, for another chance to come in the future for him too.

You make fair points. I would say in response, and this applies to any MP, if its too time consuming/too much pressure to be leader, then he should exclude himself from a cabinet position too, and I would question what the hell they are doing in politics if they are not prepared to give their full commitment to it.

I think its a general failing of all MP's these days, its a job, not a passion to see success for the country.

[the truth]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

I think it is hard to measure at first how much pressure will be brought into play when you seek the leadership of a party, it is likely why few who would make really good leaders actually do throw themselves into the contest.

He said he would run but had until June 10th I believe it is,to be fully confirmed as a candidate.
If little has been found against him in a whole election campaign as when he could have been the possible future Business secretary, then I doubt there is much to find in his life that would be really damaging.
The Sun, Mail and Telegraph could have easily done so,so that is an unfair presumption I would say.

He has withdrawn quickly, I am sad as to that.
However if he has already had the vision of how much his life is to be turned totally upside down,coupled with the announcement yesterday that it will be a 'longer' campaign for leader,rather than a short one,taking until September now.
That may have had him think, whoa,enough is enough.

He can actually,in my view, do a greater job, probably bringing businesses back to Labour as Shadow Business secretary than maybe he could ever do as Leader.

Plenty time also now too, for another chance to come in the future for him too.

I dont like to say I told you so but.......lol
You should listen to the truth more often

[Pete.]

Originally Posted by MTVN

Drama on the horizon?

[MTVN]

Apparently the press were even doorstepping his girlfriend's 102 year old grandmother

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by MTVN

Apparently the press were even doorstepping his girlfriend's 102 year old grandmother

thats the game you play in high end politics

[Kizzy]

If Mandelson liked him I'm suspicious.

[the truth]

yea im sure thats why he quit? NOT....too many skeletons chukan, then being ordained by the prince of darkness was the killer blow

[Crimson Dynamo]

labour and english cricket

together working towards catastrophe