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Old 21-09-2015, 10:47 PM #1
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Kizzy, the problem is, there are more exploitative mediums, psychics and fortune tellers out there than there are genuine ones (or ones who believe they are genuine). My grandmother used to get what she called psychic dreams. I don't know if her dreams really were psychic but she genuinely believed they were.

Telepathy has been proven to be real but it took many, many years of rigorous and repeated experiments to reach this conclusion.

As for psychic phenomenon... just because there's presently a lack of published papers and peer reviews for a scientific theory doesn't mean it doesn't exist.
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Kizzy, the problem is, there are more exploitative mediums, psychics and fortune tellers out there than there are genuine ones (or ones who believe they are genuine). My grandmother used to get what she called psychic dreams. I don't know if her dreams really were psychic but she genuinely believed they were.

Telepathy has been proven to be real but it took many, many years of rigorous and repeated experiments to reach this conclusion.

As for psychic phenomenon... just because there's presently a lack of published papers and peer reviews for a scientific theory doesn't mean it doesn't exist.
I agree, my daughter and her partner went to a local medium just a few days ago before they set back off to uni... it really did set their minds at rest about things and it was very accurate, I know many say it's pure Barnum but I have an open mind
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..I haven't actually heard of James Randi, Kirk but I will try to find time to watch this...it's really hard with mediums I think because grief is something that is so individual to everyone and everyone copes with it differently...I guess for me the whole concept and thought of..'yes I a truly spiritual person' and a 'real medium'..and then the making money from it, 'selling comfort'...just to me doesn't connect, spiritual/moneymaking, you know...


..it's a tricky one really I think..obviously because I've worked in schools for many years, I've known quite a few young deaths and sudden deaths of parents and the effects on families and specifically the effects on the children, which is our main focus but obviously that extends to the whole family as well and trying to make sure they have all the support they need...I have known a few families, where the surviving parent has felt much comfort through a medium and then through that comfort, that's how they've relayed things to their child/children..anyways for a young child who doesn't understand 'death' anyway as such, in the situations I know of..the use of a medium as comfort has not only added to that child's confusion but I think for me more importantly/or more 'damaging' I should say...is that their surviving parent has focused so much time on the death they're finding so hard to get beyond that their focus on the 'life' and their child/children is something that has been neglected...obviously not intentionally but where schools are, are with the 'life' and the child and seeing their damage../so yeah so complicated...I had an elderly neighbour..(she's dead now..)..but she also couldn't get beyond the death of her husband and every day of her life without him, for her was almost another day 'too much'...but what she did have, was two children and their own children/her grandchildren and they were a very close family so her 'comfort days' were the days she spent with them and really the thing that helped her step from one day to the next etc..but then she did go to a medium, a friend persuaded her to go along one time...and she did get comfort, the medium gave her that comfort and told her things that she so needed to hear...but the thing with that..I guess 'the cost'..maybe..?..was that it took away her focus on her family, on the here and now and the living and the short time they knew that they would have her because of her age..and they also had lost their father so every moment with their mum became precious obviously...it gave her comfort and yet in doing that, it kept her in grief as well and kept her in that place..her family needed her in their lives as well but in a way they 'lost her to the medium' and the effect on them was that they had lost two parents instead of just one...this is rushed as I have work..but a really complicated thing I think because it can have such a far reaching effect on families as well../but I'm sure there are positive stories with whole families as well...we tend to go by our own associations with these things...

..but yeah, the 'spiritual' and the 'money earning' I find hard as well...I mean for most of us I think...if it was one of those things were we were give a 'gift'...if you had the power to give comfort and ease sadness and grief...and it was true and real..etc../would you do it...would we really think and feel, well yes, of course but I'm going to charge for that I'm afraid../it just doesn't sit right with me as being a 'spiritual' thought process....
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Kizzy, the problem is, there are more exploitative mediums, psychics and fortune tellers out there than there are genuine ones (or ones who believe they are genuine). My grandmother used to get what she called psychic dreams. I don't know if her dreams really were psychic but she genuinely believed they were.

Telepathy has been proven to be real but it took many, many years of rigorous and repeated experiments to reach this conclusion.

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Really? I find that hard to believe
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Really? I find that hard to believe
Its completely untrue

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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-29093700

Brain-to-Brain Communication using non-invasive technology.
http://journals.plos.org/plosone/art...one.0105225#s2

We can scrutinise this all we want but excited scientists are still calling it telepathy.
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