[MrWong]

Originally Posted by just thinkin

friends AFTER LEAVING the house - believe me you do not become 'close' friends in an unnatural situation in the space of days with cameras and forced directions thrown at you - you may START to get to know one another but the 'close friends' comes wayyyyy down the line when you can be yourself and live your life. the only 'close' friends I would believe in the space of a few days or couple of weeks are kids in kindergarden - but even they know it won't last.

Still not true. They were close friends in the house. Unsurprising really when you spend 24 hours a day, 7 days a week together.

Nariner only lasted 3 weeks and was still able to build a close friendship with Brian, for instance.

[just thinkin]

Originally Posted by MrWong

Still not true. They were close friends in the house. Unsurprising really when you spend 24 hours a day, 7 days a week together.

Nariner only lasted 3 weeks and was still able to build a close friendship with Brian, for instance.

disagree.........anyone who thinks you become best friends in the space of a couple of weeks, cooped up together under unnatural circumstances will be bitterly disappointed - I mean, look at that disgrace of an adult Austin - he thought he could be best friends and look what happened to him when reality hit him.

any friendship will develop OUTSIDE the fake environment - not inside.

[MrWong]

Originally Posted by just thinkin

disagree.........anyone who thinks you become best friends in the space of a couple of weeks, cooped up together under unnatural circumstances will be bitterly disappointed - I mean, look at that disgrace of an adult Austin - he thought he could be best friends and look what happened to him when reality hit him.

any friendship will develop OUTSIDE the fake environment - not inside.

That's because the friendship is fake (for James).

To build a close friendship both people have to be sincere about it.

[just thinkin]

Originally Posted by MrWong

That's because the friendship is fake (for James).

To build a close friendship both people have to be sincere about it.

its not really for EITHER of them. austin is too thick to realise that - even though James has tried to tell him numerous times - to his face - but he still doesn't get it.

[MrWong]

Originally Posted by just thinkin

its not really for EITHER of them. austin is too thick to realise that - even though James has tried to tell him numerous times - to his face - but he still doesn't get it.

We will have to agree to disagree I'm afraid.

[jet]

I think Austin is quite obsessed with James who on the other hand sees (or did see) Austin as someone to hang out and have fun with - and they did have fun together and got on well. I think James began to feel uncomfortable when the married Austin started behaving inappropriately towards him. James could have made a big deal out of it but he handled the 'situations' when they arose brilliantly. imo Austin reads far more into their relationship than actually exists (whether its sexual or just friendship) and I think the public have bought into it and has seen them as some devoted, inseparable pair who have to be loyal to each other no matter what.
James has said Austin is his best friend in the house which means just that - he simply gets on with him best and that is it, no more, no less. He has no reason to keep quiet about Austin's treatment of an older lady and if it had been anyone else doing the same thing he would have spoken up just the same.
Remember he got at Farrah as well for the way she spoke to people. He may come across as a bit sanctimonious at times but I think that is due to the fact he was brought up by his grandparents and his views could be seen nowadays as 'old - fashioned' - like respect for your elders etc. I for one think it is quite refreshing.

[Santa's NaughtiNess]

Originally Posted by jet

I think Austin is quite obsessed with James who on the other hand sees (or did see) Austin as someone to hang out and have fun with - and they did have fun together and got on well. I think James began to feel uncomfortable when the married Austin started behaving inappropriately towards him. James could have made a big deal out of it but he handled the 'situations' when they arose brilliantly. imo Austin reads far more into their relationship than actually exists (whether its sexual or just friendship) and I think the public have bought into it and has seen them as some devoted, inseparable pair who have to be loyal to each other no matter what.
James has said Austin is his best friend in the house which means just that - he simply gets on with him best and that is it, no more, no less. He has no reason to keep quiet about Austin's treatment of an older lady and if it had been anyone else doing the same thing he would have spoken up just the same.
Remember he got at Farrah as well for the way she spoke to people. He may come across as a bit sanctimonious at times but I think that is due to the fact he was brought up by his grandparents and his views could be seen nowadays as 'old - fashioned' - like respect for your elders etc. I for one think it is quite refreshing.

[downthechippie]

Originally Posted by jet

I think Austin is quite obsessed with James who on the other hand sees (or did see) Austin as someone to hang out and have fun with - and they did have fun together and got on well. I think James began to feel uncomfortable when the married Austin started behaving inappropriately towards him. James could have made a big deal out of it but he handled the 'situations' when they arose brilliantly. imo Austin reads far more into their relationship than actually exists (whether its sexual or just friendship) and I think the public have bought into it and has seen them as some devoted, inseparable pair who have to be loyal to each other no matter what.
James has said Austin is his best friend in the house which means just that - he simply gets on with him best and that is it, no more, no less. He has no reason to keep quiet about Austin's treatment of an older lady and if it had been anyone else doing the same thing he would have spoken up just the same.
Remember he got at Farrah as well for the way she spoke to people. He may come across as a bit sanctimonious at times but I think that is due to the fact he was brought up by his grandparents and his views could be seen nowadays as 'old - fashioned' - like respect for your elders etc. I for one think it is quite refreshing.

Isn't it strange how people can come to completely different conclusions, based on the same actions. You find James' character 'old-fashioned' and 'quite refreshing'. I find him without any moral fiber whatsoever and so far from 'old fashioned' as is possible to get.

He knows that Austin has a thing for him. James knows that austin feels strongly for him. Yet James disapproves of Austin's behaviour, so much so that he nominates him for eviction. Yet he still pretends to be his 'best friend in the house'. He still plays along with it all. Why? Because he thinks this will endear him to the public, not because he feels any friendship towards Austin.

James is a typical 'tease' and a not very nice character.

[poppsywoppsy]

Originally Posted by jet

I think Austin is quite obsessed with James who on the other hand sees (or did see) Austin as someone to hang out and have fun with - and they did have fun together and got on well. I think James began to feel uncomfortable when the married Austin started behaving inappropriately towards him. James could have made a big deal out of it but he handled the 'situations' when they arose brilliantly. imo Austin reads far more into their relationship than actually exists (whether its sexual or just friendship) and I think the public have bought into it and has seen them as some devoted, inseparable pair who have to be loyal to each other no matter what.
James has said Austin is his best friend in the house which means just that - he simply gets on with him best and that is it, no more, no less. He has no reason to keep quiet about Austin's treatment of an older lady and if it had been anyone else doing the same thing he would have spoken up just the same.
Remember he got at Farrah as well for the way she spoke to people. He may come across as a bit sanctimonious at times but I think that is due to the fact he was brought up by his grandparents and his views could be seen nowadays as 'old - fashioned' - like respect for your elders etc. I for one think it is quite refreshing.

Spot on