[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by Joseph the Carpenter

you have no idea what type of father he is

Of course I have an idea - from everything I have seen, read and heard over the years from him, his wife, his family and friends, his promoter, and even some of his opponents.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by kirklancaster

Of course I have an idea - from everything I have seen, read and heard over the years from him, his wife, his family and friends, his promoter, and even some of his opponents.

and you think a good father teaches his children that gay people are in cahoots with the devil and that a womans place is either in the kitchen or on their back?

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by Joseph the Carpenter

and you think a good father teaches his children that gay people are in cahoots with the devil and that a womans place is either in the kitchen or on their back?

WHERE did I mention him being a 'GOOD FATHER'?

I said:

"Fury might spout bollocks but he is a loving Father and husband who DOTES on his wife and kids."

There are diverse and many interpretations of being a 'good father' but only one interpretation of the words 'loving' and 'dotes'.

I call a good father someone who works for his kids, sacrifices for his kids, puts his kids first,and does not abuse or sexually abuse his kids.

The fact that Fury might teach his kids chauvinism by example, is mitigated when such chauvinism is the accepted traditional custom among their culture.

The fact that Fury might specifically teach his children homophobia because of of his own extremist religious views is wrong and what stops him justifiably being labelled a 'GOOD FATHER' rather than just a loving doting one - if that is the case - but this has not been alleged nor proved to my knowledge.

If you teach your own kids your own extreme form of atheism and religious intolerance, are you a 'GOOD FATHER' even though you may be a 'loving' and 'doting' one?

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by kirklancaster

WHERE did I mention him being a 'GOOD FATHER'?

I said:

"Fury might spout bollocks but he is a loving Father and husband who DOTES on his wife and kids."

There are diverse and many interpretations of being a 'good father' but only one interpretation of the words 'loving' and 'dotes'.

I call a good father someone who works for his kids, sacrifices for his kids, puts his kids first,and does not abuse or sexually abuse his kids.

The fact that Fury might teach his kids chauvinism by example, is mitigated when such chauvinism is the accepted traditional custom among their culture.

The fact that Fury might specifically teach his children homophobia because of of his own extremist religious views is wrong and what stops him justifiably being labelled a 'GOOD FATHER' rather than just a loving doting one - if that is the case - but this has not been alleged nor proved to my knowledge.

If you teach your own kids your own extreme form of atheism and religious intolerance, are you a 'GOOD FATHER' even though you may be a 'loving' and 'doting' one?

there is no extreme atheism

we are all atheists

i simply go one more god than you do but we both agree about the 99% of other gods

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by Joseph the Carpenter

there is no extreme atheism

we are all atheists

i simply go one more god than you do but we both agree about the 99% of other gods

Deflection LT. Pedantics. But I am not an Atheist at all. I USED to be.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by kirklancaster

Deflection LT. Pedantics. But I am not an Atheist at all. I USED to be.

So you believe in the Muslim God and the Hindu ones?

Plus all the Greek ones?

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by Joseph the Carpenter

So you believe in the Muslim God and the Hindu ones?

Plus all the Greek ones?

Yep - of couse I do, and the 'One-Eyed Yellow Idol To The North of Kathmandu'.

And I believe you are not winding me up as well.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by kirklancaster

Of course I have an idea - from everything I have seen, read and heard over the years from him, his wife, his family and friends, his promoter, and even some of his opponents.

Most people want more for their daughters than to be a glorified skivvy.

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by Merry Kizzmas

Most people want more for their daughters than to be a glorified skivvy.

How can you denigrate Fury's wife in such a way? She is happy and healthy and content and wealthy - thanks to her loving husband.

Surely SHE is a better judge of what SHE wants than you are.

Most non-Gypsy people want more than prostitution, drug addiction, multiple children to different fathers and a freely elected lifetime on benefits for their daughters too, but that is often not the case.

True Gypsies have their own unique culture - and unlike certain cultures which are too many times defended on here - that 'different' culture does not HURT us in any way. Does it?