[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by Merry Kizzmas

He most certainly was and as that is the topic currently up for discussion I choose to maintain my focus on that. If you wish to begin a thread in which to question Nelson Mandelas ethics go ahead, I don't feel the two are comparable personally.
That said it has been suggested that without Rhodes there would have been no apartheid, therefore ANC would never have come to be.

It has also been suggested that without Rhodes - and others like him - South Africans would still be living in mudbrick and rammed earth houses, without sanitation, and in primitive conditions.

I do not need to begin a new thread in which to 'question Mandela's ethics', this is Serious Debates and Mandela is highly relevant to this topic.

Up to now, despite this forum being called Serious Debates, your posts have not countered any of the arguments against this agitator - Rhodes will, Mandela, Shaka Zuklu etc - only ignored them because you have no legitimate counters, and just as one glance at any newspaper will confirm that your subversive black student has lost his argument in the real world, then likewise, even the most cursory of glances through this thread will confirm that you too have lost your argument in support of him on here.

A victory then for common sense and democracy.