[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by kirklancaster

The horrible 'Filthy Rich' monsters which are the entire Tory Party, the Land Grabbing Working Class exploiting Aristocracy, and a whole plethora of greedy exploitive Corporations who make huge profits from the merchandise produced by badly paid workers in 'Third World Sweatshops' - ALL pay taxes and have done since before you were born.

Give me one example of ANYONE in receipt of ANY type of benefit returning even PART of it due to a troubled conscience because of where some of the that benefit money originated from.

DITTO usage of NHS facilities, from Dentists to Hospitals.

DITTO a myriad other services and facilities we all take for granted in our daily lives.

I asked a similar question on the 'Open Door' immigration threads, for those advocating letting into this country all and sundry, to post if they were willing to, or indeed HAD already, let these 'desperate poor immigrants' live and sleep in their own homes, and the silence of response was deafening.

Similarly, I do not expect any type of affirmative response to this question either.

Which gives these 'protests' and views a hollow ring.

This country - like every other - is HISTORICALLY BUILT and CURRENTLY ENDURES upon the taxes of its citizens, and the wealth CREATED by its entrepeneurs, and that money -- no matter where it originates from, or how immorally it was historically made -- is inextricably steeped into the foundations, infrastructure, and superstructure of this country, and to 'protest' about aspects of it whilst gladly availing oneself of the whole, is just pure hypocritical B.S - in my opinion.

I'm having trouble deciphering this, how does it relate to my post you quoted?
Unless you mean everybody exploits everyone and that's it?

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

I'm having trouble deciphering this, how does it relate to my post you quoted?
Unless you mean everybody exploits everyone and that's it?

I think it is patently clear to everyone else just what I mean in my post, and how it specifically relates to the post of yours which I quoted.

I am disappointed that you claim not to understand it therefore - especially as I deliberately wrote; "The horrible 'Filthy Rich' monsters which are the entire Tory Party" just so you could more easily identify yourself with the post.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by kirklancaster

I think it is patently clear to everyone else just what I mean in my post, and how it specifically relates to the post of yours which I quoted.

I am disappointed that you claim not to understand it therefore - especially as I deliberately wrote; "The horrible 'Filthy Rich' monsters which are the entire Tory Party" just so you could more easily identify yourself with the post.

It may be but it's not clear to me which is why I asked for clarification.

Do I identify myself as a filthy rich tory?


Cecil Rhodes wrote 'confessions of faith' here are a few quotes-

'I contend that we are the finest race in the world and that the more of the world we inhabit the better it is for the human race. Just fancy those parts that are at present inhabited by the most despicable specimens of human beings what an alteration there would be if they were brought under Anglo-Saxon influence.'

'I contend that every acre added to our territory means in the future birth to some more of the English race who otherwise would not be brought into existence.'

'Why should we not form a secret society with but one object the furtherance of the British Empire and the bringing of the whole uncivilized world under British rule for the recovery of the United States for the making the Anglo-Saxon race but one Empire.'

'Africa is still lying ready for us it is our duty to take it. It is our duty to seize every opportunity of acquiring more territory and we should keep this one idea steadily before our eyes that more territory simply means more of the Anglo-Saxon race more of the best the most human, most honorable race the world possesses.'

'What has been the main cause of the success of the Romish Church? The fact that every enthusiast, call it if you like every madman finds employment in it. Let us form the same kind of society a Church for the extension of the British Empire. A society which should have its members in every part of the British Empire working with one object and one idea.... For fear that death might cut me off before the time for attempting its development I leave all my worldly goods in trust... to try to form such a Society with such a object.'


The ethics of this man no matter how you spin it are more aligned with those of ISIS and other fundamentalist organisations than what we in modern Britain can identify with both socially and politically. It is in essence diametrically opposed to any kind of democratic ideology and or reasoning, there is no way of avoiding that fact.
This is what is being perpetrated in our 'great colleges' I firmly feel this thinking is alive and flourishing in the establishment.
I understand there are those who don't/won't/ can't see it, however that is my belief.
I don't feel this man could or should be representative of modern Britain, I find him, his beliefs and his legacy questionable.



http://www.pitt.edu/~syd/rhod.html