[Jack_]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

I believe Sam worked for his pension,the world does not owe anyone a living,if you want something get out there and work for it as people did in Sams day,I am sure you have it much easier now tbh.

yes it's so much easier now! Much easier to get on the housing market before the age of 25, much easier to graduate and go into full time employment immediately, much easier to acquire a stable, secure job with employment rights, much easier to be supported if you're struggling to make ends meet, the list goes on.

It's oh so very easy to throw clichéd remarks like 'get out there and earn a living' around but not everyone is afforded an equal opportunity to do so.

[Margarine.]

Originally Posted by Jack_

yes it's so much easier now! Much easier to get on the housing market before the age of 25, much easier to graduate and go into full time employment immediately, much easier to acquire a stable, secure job with employment rights, much easier to be supported if you're struggling to make ends meet, the list goes on.

It's oh so very easy to throw clichéd remarks like 'get out there and earn a living' around but not everyone is afforded an equal opportunity to do so.

I'm training to be a paramedic and by the time I retire, at an age that God only knows, I will probably have a piss poor pension

But obviously, I can't complain because life is so much easier for me than it would have been 30 years ago

[Jack_]

Originally Posted by Margarine.

I'm training to be a paramedic and by the time I retire, at an age that God only knows, I will probably have a piss poor pension

But obviously, I can't complain because life is so much easier for me than it would have been 30 years ago

You have iPad's and Netflix and the internet and Candy Crush and weren't caned at school, your life is so easy work for your ****ing living you scrounger!!!!!!

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Jack_

You have iPad's and Netflix and the internet and Candy Crush and weren't caned at school, your life is so easy work for your ****ing living you scrounger!!!!!!

Damn right and I'll bet margarine will make a great paramedic he/she is at least doing something worthwhile, life is what we make it,you get out of it what you put in.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Jack_

yes it's so much easier now! Much easier to get on the housing market before the age of 25, much easier to graduate and go into full time employment immediately, much easier to acquire a stable, secure job with employment rights, much easier to be supported if you're struggling to make ends meet, the list goes on.

It's oh so very easy to throw clichéd remarks like 'get out there and earn a living' around but not everyone is afforded an equal opportunity to do so.

Does your mother wash your clothes in a wash house in a dolly tub,do you have to go outside to the toilet,do you have coats on the bed to keep you warm,do you bath in a tin bath by the fireside,do you have limited food stuffs? answer ,NO,(no offence meant by those things Sam,lol) You have far more today than you've ever had, nothing is impossible if you really want it. but you have to help yourself a little sometimes,yes it might be a struggle but perseverance will get you far.

[Jack_]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

Does your mother wash your clothes in a wash house in a dolly tub,do you have to go outside to the toilet,do you have coats on the bed to keep you warm,do you bath in a tin bath by the fireside,do you have limited food stuffs? answer ,NO,(no offence meant by those things Sam,lol) You have far more today than you've ever had, nothing is impossible if you really want it. but you have to help yourself a little sometimes,yes it might be a struggle but perseverance will get you far.

Well I don't have to do any of that, but struggling to heat one's home and having limited food are still very much a reality for many people today. Difference is, just because I'm lucky enough that it doesn't affect me personally it doesn't mean I don't care.

Just because we've had some technological advances and new definitions of poverty have come to fruition, it doesn't mean that tired rhetoric and meritocratic fallacies about 'putting the work in' and 'anything is achievable' can solve some deep rooted societal problems. Some people are seriously lacking in opportunity for reasons beyond their control, and unless they are provided with one, they are destined for a life on the poverty line and unjustified abuse for being a 'scrounger'. Problems need solutions, not sayings.

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by Jack_

yes it's so much easier now! Much easier to get on the housing market before the age of 25, much easier to graduate and go into full time employment immediately, much easier to acquire a stable, secure job with employment rights, much easier to be supported if you're struggling to make ends meet, the list goes on.

It's oh so very easy to throw clichéd remarks like 'get out there and earn a living' around but not everyone is afforded an equal opportunity to do so.

Not all young people work, they live off the state and think its their right to be lazy and slobs ,something Sam and his generation would never have done, its called self respect

[Firewire]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

Not all young people work, they live off the state and think its their right to be lazy and slobs ,something Sam and his generation would never have done, its called self respect

Not all middle aged people work either

[Smithy]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

Not all young people work, they live off the state and think its their right to be lazy and slobs ,something Sam and his generation would never have done, its called self respect

Maybe the previous generation should have raised this one better then

[Jack_]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

Not all young people work, they live off the state and think its their right to be lazy and slobs ,something Sam and his generation would never have done, its called self respect

With all due respect, you have no idea what you are talking about. I would suggest reading less of the Sun, Express and the Mail and more of the very real facts and figures that depict a severe lack of opportunities for many underprivileged people (not all of them young), and an abundance of exploitation and systematic abuse they face as a result.

Originally Posted by Firewire

Not all middle aged people work either

Young people are the root of all evil though! Scum!!!!!

Originally Posted by Smithy

Maybe the previous generation should have raised this one better then

ooOOooooOoHhHhhhhh you went there

[EspeonBB]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

Not all young people work, they live off the state and think its their right to be lazy and slobs ,something Sam and his generation would never have done, its called self respect

Actually a lot young people work hard for a living and a lot are looking for work and struggle to find jobs due to the state of the job market right now

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by EspeonBB

Actually a lot young people work hard for a living and a lot are looking for work and struggle to find jobs due to the state of the job market right now

Of course they do,no one is disputing that ,but c'mon there are a certain section that do NOT want to work or better themselves , they prefer life on benefits,some even admit that, those are the people I am talking about.

[Jack_]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

Of course they do,no one is disputing that ,but c'mon there are a certain section that do NOT want to work or better themselves , they prefer life on benefits,some even admit that, those are the people I am talking about.

You are talking about a tiny percentage (under 1%) of another tiny percentage of people of which we pay job seekers allowance to, which is a minute part of a huge welfare spending bill, largely made up by pensions. The idea that there are millions of people lying around watching Cash in the Attic rather than getting a job is a convenient media myth. These people are a tiny minority and do not represent anyone or any community, nor do they have any kind of seismic effect on our economy.

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by EspeonBB

Actually a lot young people work hard for a living and a lot are looking for work and struggle to find jobs due to the state of the job market right now

And a lot don't