[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Johnnyuk123

Will Smith's wife Jada Pinkett Smith needs to understand that she was only invited on the plus one anyways because of her famous movie star husband otherwise she would not have even been invited in the first place cos she can't act for toffee.

Yeah, because she's clearly miffed because she herself hasn't been nominated. That must be it.

[Mokka]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

One movie with an all black cast makes that era of film have better representation? erm no.

Lol... true.

I liked Niamh's opinion earlier. I know Hollywood and casting are all about looks... but why are roles that don't require any sort of race at all always cast white? Superhero movies... all white. Why is colour such a major factor in determining the actor chosen. And yes, it's the same for Indian or Asian actors as well. Master of None... the tv show on Netflix actually has a great episode that deals with this issue.

[Livia]

Spike Lee actually picked up an honorary Oscar last year and was described as "a champion of independent film and an inspiration to young filmmakers". Guess he forgot.

[Marsh.]

It's like when the black lady was cast as Hermione and the whole backlash it got showed how there is still a way to go.

Hermione is essentially a race neutral character and the kicking off about it was ridiculous.

[Mokka]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

It's like when the black lady was cast as Hermione and the whole backlash it got showed how there is still a way to go.

Hermione is essentially a race neutral character and the kicking off about it was ridiculous.

Exactly

[Cherie]

Why are you both using the same sig have you joined a cult

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Why are you both using the same sig have you joined a cult

who?

and where is your avatar?

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

who?

and where is your avatar?

Mokka and Marsh, must dig out my old one I know you love it

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Mokka and Marsh, must dig out my old one I know you love it

dont bring that barn roof back again

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Why are you both using the same sig have you joined a cult

Keep Josy away from any of the balconies in TiBB Towers is all I'm saying

[Mokka]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Why are you both using the same sig have you joined a cult

lol... In my defense... I used the quote first....

But Marsh can be just like me... I'm ok with that

[GiRTh]

Same old crazy debate.

As much as I think Spike and Jada have a point I wish they'd dedicate a little more effort to others issues rather than any perceived slight they feel the academy has shown them.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by GiRTh

Same old crazy debate.

As much as I think Spike and Jada have a point I wish they'd dedicate a little more effort to others issues rather than any perceived slight they feel the academy has shown them.

Which other issues?

Why can't they fight for equality where there clearly isn't any?

Jada's also spoken about the gender gap when it comes to Hollywood pay too.

[GiRTh]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

Which other issues?

Why can't they fight for equality where there clearly isn't any?

Jada's also spoken about the gender gap when it comes to Hollywood pay too.

Welcome back Marsh

I agree there is an issue here but not too sure how a boycott can affect anything. If they want to be political then there are plenty of issues where their input wold be appreciate and possibly affect change. I dont think this boycott will change anything and I dont think if they boycott for the next five years it will change anything.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by GiRTh

Welcome back Marsh

I agree there is an issue here but not too sure how a boycott can affect anything. If they want to be political then there are plenty of issue where their input wold be appreciate and possibly affect change. I dont think this boycott will change anything and I dont think if they boycott for the next five years it will change anything.

There's always going to be other issues. But this is one area they are involved with and are affected by so this is obviously where their efforts will go.

[GiRTh]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

There's always going to be other issues. But this is one area they are involved with and are affected by so this is obviously where their efforts will go.

And I wish them well.

[Mokka]

Originally Posted by GiRTh

Welcome back Marsh

I agree there is an issue here but not too sure how a boycott can affect anything. If they want to be political then there are plenty of issues where their input wold be appreciate and possibly affect change. I dont think this boycott will change anything and I dont think if they boycott for the next five years it will change anything.

I said it on the first page and I will say it again... A boycott is a very reasonable and effective way to get people talking about the issue... and to bring a long standing issue into the awareness of the greater public. Especially when it is big stars who are going to get big press reporting it.

It is already working, because it has people like us having healthy debate on the issue... and if it is true that the public dollars dictate what movie gets made or not made based on where we spend our box office dollars... then the public need to be aware of the issue... not just the executives in the offices.

[GiRTh]

Originally Posted by Mokka

I said it on the first page and I will say it again... A boycott is a very reasonable and effective way to get people talking about the issue... and to bring a long standing issue into the awareness of the greater public. Especially when it is big stars who are going to get big press reporting it.

It is already working, because it has people like us having healthy debate on the issue... and if it is true that the public dollars dictate what movie gets made or not made based on where we spend our box office dollars... then the public need to be aware of the issue... not just the executives in the offices.

Hollywood execs have far more power that Jada and Spike. They wont do anything if they dont want to. This debate has been about since Halle Berry won her Oscar, a full 15 years ago, and made it public knowledge she was the first black woman to do so. Not much has changed since then.

[Mokka]

Originally Posted by GiRTh

Hollywood execs have far more power that Jada and Spike. They wont do anything if they dont want to. This debate has been about since Halle Berry won her Oscar, a full 15 years ago, and made it public knowledge she was the first black woman to do so. Not much has changed since then.

cynical... nothing is ever going to change... so **** about it and don't bother...

that is exactly how things don't change.

[GiRTh]

Originally Posted by Mokka

cynical... nothing is ever going to change... so **** about it and don't bother...

that is exactly how things don't change.

Dont shoot the messenger. This attitude has been cultivated over many decades where nothing ever seems to change.

[the truth]

only 17% of americans are black, theyre 18% behind in graduation, its hard to make any factual period pieces about powerful people with African americans in the lead roles

[arista]

Originally Posted by GiRTh

Same old crazy debate.

As much as I think Spike and Jada have a point I wish they'd dedicate a little more effort to others issues rather than any perceived slight they feel the academy has shown them.

Yes its not good for business,
Chis Rock presenting the Oscars
Live on SkyMoviesHD (for UK) 28th Feb
will be great.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by the truth

only 17% of americans are black, theyre 18% behind in graduation, its hard to make any factual period pieces about powerful people with African americans in the lead roles

Do they need to be factual or period pieces?

Any films at all would be a start.

I'd say the problem is the films "needing" to be factual. Most of the films with leading black characters tends to be related to slavery/times when black people were treated like second class citizens like The Help, 12 Years a Slave etc.

[Ammi]

..I don't know, I find this a bit of a difficult one because The Oscars have always been controversial with some actors for one reason or another...Marlon Brando was the first person I recall to have 'famously' snubbed them when he won his Oscar for The Godfather..(I think it was The Godfather..)...and a native American lady attended in his place to reject the award...was that in protest to the treatment of native American Indians..?..hasn't Robert De Nero snubbed them as well, I'm not sure...but I think many minorities have been protested against not being represented enough, not enough parts for females in comparison to males, not enough older female parts, not enough English acting representation...(and yet Idris is saying that America is the place to be for diversity..?..)...

..it's hard to say also with this years nominations because I haven't seen most of the movies, so don't know whether they're the best ones and the ones that should be getting the shout outs...I did watch The Danish Girl last night though, which I think is nominated...and although I do thinks it's a great movie and very worthy, for me it's definitely not a better movie than Beast of No Nation, for instance..but that's just my personal choice, Beast of No Nation is the sort of movie that hits you and makes a huge impact in your thoughts, it's brutal and feels very relevant atm...the recruiting of child soldiers, so comparable to IS and something that we've all talked about so much in recent times...maybe Hollywood/the Academy felt in some way that in nominating it, they would be almost 'giving a nod to IS'..?..it all gets so political I think as well...I think that I'm less surprised that Idris wasn't nominated, than I am that Abraham Attah wasn't because Hollywood is the home of the child actor/star, is it not...and his performance for me, was the best ever of any child actor that I recall, he really is an incredible actor...but I don't know really, is it a racism thing with Beast of No Nations or just such a real and brutal storyline that they don't want to address this year..interesting...

[lostalex]

yay, my not watching the oscars finally has some meaning. This is the kind of activism i can get behind.

never say i didn't do anything for the blacks.