[jet]

Steph is behaving very erratically and unpredictably which is why the other HM's are uneasy. This is a 23 year old woman. If she's not jumping around like an 8 yr old (which is embarrassing to watch) she is screeching and raving and crying or in bed with Jeremy, cheating on her boyfriend. She went into the BB house to try to repair her reputation after her sacking from Hollyoaks and all we are seeing is the continuation of her downward spiral. The girl isn't well, and I don't find her demise entertaining at all.
That's the strain they all have to live with, and it is clearly getting to them all. They have tried talking calmly to her, but she never listens. Dani lost it with her, but she's allowed to make mistakes too. You can make them at any age, at any time. Having experience doesn't make anyone perfect.

[rionablue]

Originally Posted by jet

Steph is behaving very erratically and unpredictably which is why the other HM's are uneasy. This is a 23 year old woman. If she's not jumping around like an 8 yr old (which is embarrassing to watch) she is screeching and raving and crying or in bed with Jeremy, cheating on her boyfriend. She went into the BB house to try to repair her reputation after her sacking from Hollyoaks and all we are seeing is the continuation of her downward spiral. The girl isn't well, and I don't find her demise entertaining at all.
That's the strain they all have to live with, and it is clearly getting to them all. They have tried talking calmly to her, but she never listens. Dani lost it with her, but she's allowed to make mistakes too. You can make them at any age, at any time. Having experience doesn't make anyone perfect.

Excellent post Jet and I agree

[Visage]

Originally Posted by jet

Having experience doesn't make anyone perfect.

Of course it doesn't, but it does have something at the very least.

I like Daniella and I was hoping to see a much happier person than we are seeing. I believe Daniella has many demons that she's battling with too and I can truly believe how difficult it would be to live with someone like Steph.

However Daniella has spoken out loud about Steph's behaviour - it didn't change Steph

Daniella has taken Steph to one side (so we're being told) a few times - it didn't change Steph.

Daniella then has another go at Steph in front of the housemates and to back Daniella's point, she said "I'm only saying what the rest of the housemates have been saying behind your back" - Is that really the best way to get a point across? No, it feels like the whole house is against Steph - hence Steph's continuation into another meltdown.

I'm not making excuses for Steph, but I'm also not in favour of how most of the housemates have dealt with it all.

[hot2go]

Originally Posted by jet

They have tried talking calmly to her, but she never listens. .

I agree, they have tried talking to her , but do they have a right to ? Maybe Dani, in private, but no way should Steph be told what to do by Gemma who never does anything she's told to do.
The other housemates are assuming the role of BB and thinking they can tell her what to do and they really can't....Steph is acting out just like Tiffany is acting out....she's no more out of control in those moments then Tiffany in hers....in fact Tiffany was way more angry and out of control last night, and rightfully so too.....yet neither Gemma or Dani confronted her....or, like John did, comforted her either.
Steph is being picked out and isolated by the group and then Ganged up on....apparently that's not bullying, but what do I know, I always thought those things were

[jet]

Originally Posted by hot2go

I agree, they have tried talking to her , but do they have a right to ? Maybe Dani, in private, but no way should Steph be told what to do by Gemma who never does anything she's told to do.
The other housemates are assuming the role of BB and thinking they can tell her what to do and they really can't....Steph is acting out just like Tiffany is acting out....she's no more out of control in those moments then Tiffany in hers....in fact Tiffany was way more angry and out of control last night, and rightfully so too.....yet neither Gemma or Dani confronted her....or, like John did, comforted her either.
Steph is being picked out and isolated by the group and then Ganged up on....apparently that's not bullying, but what do I know, I always thought those things were

As far as I remember the only time Gemma has said anything to Steph about it was quite a while ago when she said outright "you've got a boyfriend and you're cheating on him" - and this was after the HM's had already tackled Steph about it. I don't think she has spoken to Steph about it again.
The fact that you bring Gemma up in every post as the root of all evil and when she isn't even involved in the incident being discussed diminishes the impact of your words as an obvious bias used that often just gets tiresome. For example, according to you, every negative word or action from Dani is Gemma's fault. I've seen Dani before plenty of times in other programmes, and she is impulsive and outspoken and can be nasty at times and Gemma has been nowhere in sight. I don't particularly like Dani, but I think last night she was at the end of her tether, in a bad mood, and that laid to her outburst.
Last nights problem was between Steph and Dani. Gemma had little or nothing to do with it.

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by jet

As far as I remember the only time Gemma has said anything to Steph about it was quite a while ago when she said outright "you've got a boyfriend and you're cheating on him" - and this was after the HM's had already tackled Steph about it. I don't think she has spoken to Steph about it again.
The fact that you bring Gemma up in every post as the root of all evil and when she isn't even involved in the incident being discussed diminishes the impact of your words as an obvious bias used that often just gets tiresome. For example, according to you, every negative word or action from Dani is Gemma's fault. I've seen Dani before plenty of times in other programmes, and she is impulsive and outspoken and can be nasty at times and Gemma has been nowhere in sight. I don't particularly like Dani, but I think last night she was at the end of her tether, in a bad mood, and that laid to her outburst.
Last nights problem was between Steph and Dani. Gemma had little or nothing to do with it.

Gemma has loaded the gun for all the others to fire, sneaky fat cow

[jet]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

Gemma has loaded the gun for all the others to fire, sneaky fat cow

That's John's role and he loves it. He wouldn't be happy to hear that Gemma is getting the credit.

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by jet

That's John's role and he loves it. He wouldn't be happy to hear that Gemma is getting the credit.

Is it chuff John doing that

[MrWong]

Originally Posted by jet

That's John's role and he loves it. He wouldn't be happy to hear that Gemma is getting the credit.

He admitted as much to Gillian during therapy.

Did you miss that bit Chuff?

[hot2go]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

Gemma has loaded the gun for all the others to fire, sneaky fat cow

That's my, tiresome, point....Gemma hasn't said hardly anything to Steph compared to Dani....that's the difference, Dani has said it up front and to Steph, Gemma has said loads more but always to the others and behind Stephs back....the reason Gemmas name features in so many peoples posts about other housemates is because Gemma is always in the epi centre of all the trouble in the house ...mostly as a smiling assassin who, as chuff just pointed out, loads the gun then sits back and watches her minions fire the f-cker
It's impossible for me to defend Steph and NOT bring Gemma into the discussion because Gemma is the one who is instigating each and every attack that's taking place against Steph....but she does it in a way that fools others into thinking she's not involved....

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by hot2go

That's my, tiresome, point....Gemma hasn't said hardly anything to Steph compared to Dani....that's the difference, Dani has said it up front and to Steph, Gemma has said loads more but always to the others and behind Stephs back....the reason Gemmas name features in so many peoples posts about other housemates is because Gemma is always in the epi centre of all the trouble in the house ...mostly as a smiling assassin who, as chuff just pointed out, loads the gun then sits back and watches her minions fire the f-cker
It's impossible for me to defend Steph and NOT bring Gemma into the discussion because Gemma is the one who is instigating each and every attack that's taking place against Steph....but she does it in a way that fools others into thinking she's not involved....

All true ,John gets labelled the house back stabber but its not him,its Gemma the smiling assassin

[Tarryn]

I just don't know how anyone can defend Steph.
She is vile. A spoilt little girl who needs everybody to baby her.
Jeremy is not her potential boyfriend but he is now her carer.
She would have happily let Jeremy end his time in BB & walk out with her last night without a second thought for him.
She only cares about herself. She is one of the most selfish people I think I have ever seen.
Danniella was right to tell her what she thought of her. It must be so draining having to put up with a 22 year old girl with the mentality of a toddler.
I don't think though that Danniella is doing it out of love for Stephanie I just think she is trying to sugar-coat her hatred of her.

[jet]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

All true ,John gets labelled the house back stabber but its not him,its Gemma the smiling assassin

Funny he is named as the house **** stirrer on BoTS, even a friend of his said it with a laugh. And Gillian said it too.He even gave his **** a stir before handing it back to her.
All that doesn't come out of nowhere. But I guess they are all wrong and you're right.

[hot2go]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

All true ,John gets labelled the house back stabber but its not him,its Gemma the smiling assassin

Chuff, try and steer away from John if you can, cause this thread is for Steph and people will divert the attention of positive support for Steph by focusing on another house mate ....it's the way they play ....this thread will very quickly no longer be about Streph but instead will be a negative thread about John....they're clever....hope you don't mind me asking

[jet]

Originally Posted by hot2go

That's my, tiresome, point....Gemma hasn't said hardly anything to Steph compared to Dani....that's the difference, Dani has said it up front and to Steph, Gemma has said loads more but always to the others and behind Stephs back....the reason Gemmas name features in so many peoples posts about other housemates is because Gemma is always in the epi centre of all the trouble in the house ...mostly as a smiling assassin who, as chuff just pointed out, loads the gun then sits back and watches her minions fire the f-cker
It's impossible for me to defend Steph and NOT bring Gemma into the discussion because Gemma is the one who is instigating each and every attack that's taking place against Steph....but she does it in a way that fools others into thinking she's not involved....

If you know so much about this, give the details of how Gemma instigated each and every attack. Just saying it without the evidence doesn't mean its true.
You could start with last night and work your way back...

[hot2go]

Originally Posted by jet

If you know so much about this, give the details of how Gemma instigated each and every attack. Just saying it without the evidence doesn't mean its true.
You could start with last night and work your way back...

Really I am not trying to be unfriendly but I am really not gonna justify my views on that old cows bad behaviour again....if you want to know the tsunami of proof that's flooded this forum about Gemma Collins appalling personality them I'm afraid you're gonna have to trawl through all the old posts.....it's all there....it's all true....and it's shocking

[MrWong]

Originally Posted by jet

If you know so much about this, give the details of how Gemma instigated each and every attack. Just saying it without the evidence doesn't mean its true.
You could start with last night and work your way back...

Good luck with that

[Beso]

Originally Posted by hot2go

That's my, tiresome, point....Gemma hasn't said hardly anything to Steph compared to Dani....that's the difference, Dani has said it up front and to Steph, Gemma has said loads more but always to the others and behind Stephs back....the reason Gemmas name features in so many peoples posts about other housemates is because Gemma is always in the epi centre of all the trouble in the house ...mostly as a smiling assassin who, as chuff just pointed out, loads the gun then sits back and watches her minions fire the f-cker
It's impossible for me to defend Steph and NOT bring Gemma into the discussion because Gemma is the one who is instigating each and every attack that's taking place against Steph....but she does it in a way that fools others into thinking she's not involved....

So sitting not saying a word as steph and danniella go at it is now classed as instigating an attack.

Steph made a fool of herself just like she has for the past three weeks.

She is so pathetic, acting up and speaking at the cameras claiming to be entertaining..what a deluded idiot.

[rusticgal]

Steph set herself up last night. She instigated the whole argument by telling the other housemates the house is boring...they were boring and that she was giving all the entertainment. Considering her 'entertainment' has meant the housemates have had to endure her tears and guilt and constant hypocrisy and let the situation dominate the house...the fact the other housemates have constantly offered words of advice only for her to ignore them.
Her comments were a smack in the teeth and that's why it kicked off.

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by rusticgal

Steph set herself up last night. She instigated the whole argument by telling the other housemates the house is boring...they were boring and that she was giving all the entertainment. Considering her 'entertainment' has meant the housemates have had to endure her tears and guilt and constant hypocrisy and let the situation dominate the house...the fact the other housemates have constantly offered words of advice only for her to ignore them.
Her comments were a smack in the teeth and that's why it kicked off.

Would you be told what to do by others? I damn well wouldn't

[hot2go]

Originally Posted by rusticgal

Steph set herself up last night. She instigated the whole argument by telling the other housemates the house is boring...they were boring and that she was giving all the entertainment. Considering her 'entertainment' has meant the housemates have had to endure her tears and guilt and constant hypocrisy and let the situation dominate the house...the fact the other housemates have constantly offered words of advice only for her to ignore them.
Her comments were a smack in the teeth and that's why it kicked off.

They were boring....they were all sat in the kitchen festering away, like mysery itself ....they felt guilty because they had swerved being able to be nominated and they knew that was totally wrong and that the others would resent how unfair it was. When actually, Steph just laughed it off and started dancing around to annoy them...I would have done the same thing .

And you are wrong about Steph saying "she has given all the entertainment" , that is Gemmas line....Steph would never be that arrogant, Steph said " she's given more entertainment then big brother could have hoped for " and she is absolutely correct, she has.

[Dollface]

Originally Posted by jet

Steph is behaving very erratically and unpredictably which is why the other HM's are uneasy. This is a 23 year old woman. If she's not jumping around like an 8 yr old (which is embarrassing to watch) she is screeching and raving and crying or in bed with Jeremy, cheating on her boyfriend. She went into the BB house to try to repair her reputation after her sacking from Hollyoaks and all we are seeing is the continuation of her downward spiral. The girl isn't well, and I don't find her demise entertaining at all.
That's the strain they all have to live with, and it is clearly getting to them all. They have tried talking calmly to her, but she never listens. Dani lost it with her, but she's allowed to make mistakes too. You can make them at any age, at any time. Having experience doesn't make anyone perfect.

Perfectly said