[DemolitionRed]

Fact 1: The West has been involved in the Syrian conflict since 2012

Fact 2: The West has known that extremists were prominent in the Syrian insurgency, and that the arms they sent into Syria have often ended up in the hands of extremists, since 2012

Fact 3: The US has encouraged ‘moderate’ rebel groups to work with the Nusra Front, al-Qaeda’s affiliate in Syria, and has probably knowingly supported jihadis itself

Fact 4: The West has prolonged the fighting and blocked a peaceful solution to the conflict

Fact 5: The West has helped to create the conditions in Syria and Iraq that have allowed IS to grow and prosper

Fact 6: The West’s allies in the region have been supporting extremists in Syria, including IS

Fact 7: Western airstrikes in Syria and Iraq have killed hundreds of civilians

https://www.opendemocracy.net/uk/ian...ow-about-syria

Bob, the pictures you posted don't count because its not Belgium or France or god forbid London. Those ruins only killed Muslims, and they don't count, do they? Many westerners have no interest in helping them because "they" are not "us".

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by DemolitionRed

Fact 1: The West has been involved in the Syrian conflict since 2012

Fact 2: The West has known that extremists were prominent in the Syrian insurgency, and that the arms they sent into Syria have often ended up in the hands of extremists, since 2012

Fact 3: The US has encouraged ‘moderate’ rebel groups to work with the Nusra Front, al-Qaeda’s affiliate in Syria, and has probably knowingly supported jihadis itself

Fact 4: The West has prolonged the fighting and blocked a peaceful solution to the conflict

Fact 5: The West has helped to create the conditions in Syria and Iraq that have allowed IS to grow and prosper

Fact 6: The West’s allies in the region have been supporting extremists in Syria, including IS

Fact 7: Western airstrikes in Syria and Iraq have killed hundreds of civilians

https://www.opendemocracy.net/uk/ian...ow-about-syria

Bob, the pictures you posted don't count because its not Belgium or France or god forbid London. Those ruins only killed Muslims, and they don't count, do they? Many westerners have no interest in helping them because "they" are not "us".

To try and say that if a bus full of people died in a crash in your home town and a the same crash happened in Iraq that we should somehow be equally sad, involved and interested is rather far fetched?

Its not realistic

[DemolitionRed]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

To try and say that if a bus full of people died in a crash in your home town and a the same crash happened in Iraq that we should somehow be equally sad, involved and interested is rather far fetched?

Its not realistic

If you knew me and knew about my life and my loss in the middle east then you wouldn't be going there.

[MTVN]

Originally Posted by Livia

Saudi Arabia was also instrumental with at least as much involvement in any destabilisation as the UK and probably much more. They haven't taken a single refugee. Shouldn't the Middle East be encouraged to step up? The refugee camps in Jordan are packed, yet they seem to be one of only a few countries in that region taking steps to aid refugees. It shouldn't just be left to a few countries. It should be for everyone to step up.

That's because refugee status doesn't exist in Gulf countries though - most of their populations are poor migrants so they're fearful about what granting refugee status to people would unleash. Saudi and others do donate a lot of money to refugees and there are quite a lot of Syrians in the Gulf countries but they will all be on work and visitor permits not there as refugees

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

To try and say that if a bus full of people died in a crash in your home town and a the same crash happened in Iraq that we should somehow be equally sad, involved and interested is rather far fetched?

Its not realistic

What you have to ask yourself is who was driving the bus?