[rusticgal]

Originally Posted by Absorption

Have the last couple of weeks just been empty posturing?

One whiff of vague pleasantness from Bear, now that it suits him and he has no allies in the house, and their heads are turned. Only Frankie seems not to have amnesia about all that's gone before.

This is a shame as I thought they were stronger characters. If it is just strategy, it's a flawed one as I don't think it will endear them to the viewers.

(Anyone whose response to this is that I'm being sexist by criticising female housemates should consider the fact that we know just about all the blokes in the house are knobheads, including the lazily two-faced James. I also think Sam is getting a lot of undeserved sh!t. Why shouldn't she kick off a bit after being nominated? She's stood up for herself in the past without wanting to stir up trouble, which to me makes her a decent HM.)

I totally agree with you. This is the power of the bully....be vile to them then when you have pushed them to the limit start being nice to them then they are putty in your hands.
Frankie went up in my opinion there...he hasn't fallen for it.

[fitz2k2]

Originally Posted by rusticgal

I totally agree with you. This is the power of the bully....be vile to them then when you have pushed them to the limit start being nice to them then they are putty in your hands.
Frankie went up in my opinion there...he hasn't fallen for it.

throwing food on the floor makes him a bully?laughing at someone jokes makes him a bully? hes not a bully

[rusticgal]

Originally Posted by fitz2k2

throwing food on the floor makes him a bully?laughing at someone jokes makes him a bully? hes not a bully

I never said throwing food on the floor makes a bully?.....laughing at someone's jokes?...whos jokes?...who's laughing?....you post doesn't make sense.
However anybody who gets in people's faces...laughs in their faces...prods them...intimidates them to the point of tears and frustration and then doesn't even apologise IS A BULLY!!...

[Jan S]

Originally Posted by rusticgal

I totally agree with you. This is the power of the bully....be vile to them then when you have pushed them to the limit start being nice to them then they are putty in your hands.
Frankie went up in my opinion there...he hasn't fallen for it.

me too... seems to be the only HM who hasn't lost the plot

Originally Posted by power2thepeople

For me, I choked on my tea when Sam ranted to Renee in the store cupboard that she's the only woman who has stood up to him. Renee replied 'now you know how it feels. That was telling. Sam may voice things in the diary room but other than that it's been the occasional 'come on, play fair' or 'be a man' said in a lacklustre manner. Observing Renee on the sofa, when she muttered 'I wish people would keep emotions out of this' I actually feel she was disappointed in Sam's ott nom reactions. She threw some looks her way when she put that show on. Maybe she is actually disappointed in Sam? It came across as weak and the comment in the storeroom must have been noted. Just a thought.

it was like a slap in the face to renee: how often has she lambasted bear? loads of times. was never a fan of sam's - didn't hate her but didn't rate her at all - and what with her touchiness about the page 3 comments, and mostly walking AWAY from bear's ugliness when maybe others would have benefted from her piping up, once again she shows it's all about sam.filled with the most ridiculous egos.

Originally Posted by Kazanne

I was a tad disappointed at how they seem to forgive him now,I wanted renee in particular to be that strong woman she seemed to be,i always get let down by these 'strong' American women,Tiffany was the same,they never REALLY deliver their personalities,I like Renee to,but that disappointed me when she said Bear should stay in,thank God for Frankie who was having none of that wool pulled over his eyes, liking Frankie,more and more

indeed - frankie's become my favourite which is something i never expected.

i get ricky's reticence, and like his personality, but because he chooses not to speak out more (and i get it, i really do) there's something lacking there for me. i like that frankie speaks up, even if it's not as often as bear needs to hear... he never listens anyway.

really really bore with this series now, tbh. most the people are vile and if i hear any more of boor's dreadfully scripted-for-cam clichés, the awful sucky squelchy sounds of close-ups of kissing, and the women starting to fawn over bear then i'm done with it.

really, apart from frankie at the moment (and despite the fact i like ricky, lots, but he's not being winner material imo), this whole series is a washout for my tastes as a viewer. and now they're sticking in another geordie shaw bird? get me out of here.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Jan S

me too... seems to be the only HM who hasn't lost the plot

it was like a slap in the face to renee: how often has she lambasted bear? loads of times. was never a fan of sam's - didn't hate her but didn't rate her at all - and what with her touchiness about the page 3 comments, and mostly walking AWAY from bear's ugliness when maybe others would have benefted from her piping up, once again she shows it's all about sam.filled with the most ridiculous egos.


indeed - frankie's become my favourite which is something i never expected.

i get ricky's reticence, and like his personality, but because he chooses not to speak out more (and i get it, i really do) there's something lacking there for me. i like that frankie speaks up, even if it's not as often as bear needs to hear... he never listens anyway.

really really bore with this series now, tbh. most the people are vile and if i hear any more of boor's dreadfully scripted-for-cam clichés, the awful sucky squelchy sounds of close-ups of kissing, and the women starting to fawn over bear then i'm done with it.

really, apart from frankie at the moment (and despite the fact i like ricky, lots, but he's not being winner material imo), this whole series is a washout for my tastes as a viewer. and now they're sticking in another geordie shaw bird? get me out of here.

Great post Jan