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Jessica. · 02-11-2016, 09:53 PM

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Originally Posted by kirklancaster

Can we give it a rest now please?

You can't just tell anyone to give it a rest, that is censorship.

Throughout this thread, you and the others have been acting as if nobody else is allowed to have an opinion unless they agree with you. Every post defending the mods has been branded ignored and every person who disagrees with all of you is not allowed to have an opinion because they don't post in SD as much as you. Posts get deleted all over the forum but only your group of special snowflakes has caused such a ruckus about it. Are posts in SD the only ones that matter? If I had an innocent post deleted outside of SD is my opinion still invalid?

Ashley. · 02-11-2016, 09:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Jessica.

You can't just tell anyone to give it a rest, that is censorship.

Throughout this thread, you and the others have been acting as if nobody else is allowed to have an opinion unless they agree with you. Every post defending the mods has been branded ignored and every person who disagrees with all of you is not allowed to have an opinion because they don't post in SD as much as you. Posts get deleted all over the forum but only your group of special snowflakes has caused such a ruckus about it. Are posts in SD the only ones that matter? If I had an innocent post deleted outside of SD is my opinion still invalid?

Cherie · 02-11-2016, 09:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Jessica.

You can't just tell anyone to give it a rest, that is censorship.

Throughout this thread, you and the others have been acting as if nobody else is allowed to have an opinion unless they agree with you. Every post defending the mods has been branded ignored and every person who disagrees with all of you is not allowed to have an opinion because they don't post in SD as much as you. Posts get deleted all over the forum but only your group of special snowflakes has caused such a ruckus about it. Are posts in SD the only ones that matter? If I had an innocent post deleted outside of SD is my opinion still invalid?

Yes it is invalid because you said you don't care if your posts are deleted...so on the one hand you care on the other hand you don't care ..which is it ..are you a snowflake or not

Jessica. · 02-11-2016, 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Benjamin

Ahh how do you find the percentages? Is it listed somewhere on your profile?

I literally did a search of the SD section only, for posts submitted by my username. Then I calculated what percentage that number is of my overall post count. That's the only way, sorry.

Cherie · 02-11-2016, 09:56 PM

8 pages now folks

caprimint · 02-11-2016, 09:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Withano

Well you certainly wont take critique haha, theres seven pages worth of "mods should invest more time into me" and "no youre wrong, i know this cos you dont even like SD"

This thread isn't one that I've been passionate enough to respond to yet because I don't post in serious debates/rarely have my posts ever gotten deleted, but I don't think Cherie is saying she wants mods to invest their time into her, that's kinda turning the context into something else entirely.

I get her point, perhaps sometimes clarification is necessary.

In response to what the thread is actually about - I would say that the times I've noticed posts getting deleted are because they engage in or encourage an argument that could potentially or has gotten out of hand so deleting posts essentially stops that. Obviously it can be annoying if your post was 'innocent' but it is probably easier to delete the whole lot rather than leave random ones because people will be curious as to what it was about and the circle starts again.

Cherie · 02-11-2016, 09:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Jessica.

I literally did a search of the SD section only, for posts submitted by my username. Then I calculated what percentage that number is of my overall post count. That's the only way, sorry.

Oh

waits for the...get a life brigade ...

Benjamin · 02-11-2016, 09:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Jessica.

I literally did a search of the SD section only, for posts submitted by my username. Then I calculated what percentage that number is of my overall post count. That's the only way, sorry.

Oh haha, I thought we had a new function.

Cherie · 02-11-2016, 09:59 PM

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Originally Posted by caprimint

This thread isn't one that I've been passionate enough to respond to yet because I don't post in serious debates/rarely have my posts ever gotten deleted, but I don't think Cherie is saying she wants mods to invest their time into her, that's kinda turning the context into something else entirely.

I get her point, perhaps sometimes clarification is necessary.

In response to what the thread is actually about - I would say that the times I've noticed posts getting deleted are because they engage in or encourage an argument that could potentially or has gotten out of hand so deleting posts essentially stops that. Obviously it can be annoying if your post was 'innocent' but it is probably easier to delete the whole lot rather than leave random ones because people will be curious as to what it was about and the circle starts again.

Thank you...for cutting through the crap and actually getting it

kirklancaster · 02-11-2016, 10:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Jessica.

You can't just tell anyone to give it a rest, that is censorship.

Throughout this thread, you and the others have been acting as if nobody else is allowed to have an opinion unless they agree with you. Every post defending the mods has been branded ignored and every person who disagrees with all of you is not allowed to have an opinion because they don't post in SD as much as you. Posts get deleted all over the forum but only your group of special snowflakes has caused such a ruckus about it. Are posts in SD the only ones that matter? If I had an innocent post deleted outside of SD is my opinion still invalid?

This is just not true Jessica.

Show me where I have been acting as if nobody else is allowed to have an opinion?

I do not care who posts in SD or who doesn't, or who posts in here.

It is not the ACT of posting which I have a problem with - it is the MOTIVE for posting AND whether what is being posted is relevant and true.

But - you are, of course, free to feel what you want.

I have ALWAYS been civil and polite and friendly to everyone on here - even after I have long become aware that those qualities were not being reciprocated by some, and I only treat others how they treat me when all else has failed.

I am learning lessons over the past few weeks.

Firewire · 02-11-2016, 10:03 PM

No offence but Clinton vs Trump is not a serious debate

Mariah vs Whiteny IS however a serious debate

Kizzy · 02-11-2016, 10:04 PM

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Originally Posted by James

I have deleted some posts from this thread.

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They better not be mine sonny jim!

ly rly

Jessica. · 02-11-2016, 10:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Cherie

Yes it is invalid because you said you don't care if your posts are deleted...so on the one hand you care on the other hand you don't care ..which is it ..are you a snowflake or not

Please provide a quote where I stated that I don't actually care.

I don't want my posts to be deleted as much as anyone else.

I have disputed the deletion of my posts in the past. My point is that I know I can't get everything I want and that is a part of life. I may be bothered for a short time but I move on, Niamh deleted one of my posts recently to prevent it from being misinterpreted and I didn't like that but I have not made a thread to dispute her place as a moderator, I have not encouraged other people who were moderated by her to call her out with me and I most certainly have not rendered everyone outside of C&G, where the deletion occurred, invalid of having an opinion on the deletion of posts, because my own posts and the posts of people "on my side" are more important.

I also think that ganging up on one moderator and victimizing him about this because he participates in the threads he moderates is really uncalled for.

Kizzy · 02-11-2016, 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Cherie

Oh

waits for the...get a life brigade ...

Did you say PC brigade....Here I a...Oh, the get a life brigade?

Fetch The Bolt Cutters · 02-11-2016, 10:25 PM

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Originally Posted by kirklancaster

Cherie is not some ogre, nor am I, nor is LT or BOTS.

Ross. · 02-11-2016, 10:26 PM

So what's going on

Firewire · 02-11-2016, 10:27 PM

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Originally Posted by That Girl

Kizzy · 02-11-2016, 10:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Benjamin

I said 'some people'. Did not imply it was you, but some people have been. However the last few responses you've made to me see you teetering into that category when I was not at all digging at yourself.

Not 'some people'? I hate 'some people'....'some people' cause 99.9% of the issues in SD!

'Some people' can kiss my arse!

Denver · 02-11-2016, 10:38 PM

Crimson Dynamo · 02-11-2016, 10:38 PM

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Originally Posted by That Girl

I perhaps Lol'd a touch

kirklancaster · 02-11-2016, 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Jessica.

Please provide a quote where I stated that I don't actually care.

I don't want my posts to be deleted as much as anyone else.

I have disputed the deletion of my posts in the past. My point is that I know I can't get everything I want and that is a part of life. I may be bothered for a short time but I move on, Niamh deleted one of my posts recently to prevent it from being misinterpreted and I didn't like that but I have not made a thread to dispute her place as a moderator, I have not encouraged other people who were moderated by her to call her out with me and I most certainly have not rendered everyone outside of C&G, where the deletion occurred, invalid of having an opinion on the deletion of posts, because my own posts and the posts of people "on my side" are more important.

I also think that ganging up on one moderator and victimizing him about this because he participates in the threads he moderates is really uncalled for.

That emboldened sentence is just not what is happening in my case Jessica.

And I totally disagree about any 'victimising' - in fact Dezzy's name has barely been mentioned in this thread.

Any thread on any topic will draw to it members who have an opinion on that topic.

I am referring to genuine opinion NOT opportunistic 'veiled' Trolling and Baiting from personal 'axe-grinding' motives.

This subject is no different, and if several members independently feel that they have had a genuine unfair experience at the hands of a 'Mod', and that 'Mod' turns out to be the same person, then that is not 'ganging up' and it is not victimising anyone.

Dialogue is the only way to resolve any problems such as this, and irrational hostile or untrue comments through misplaced loyalty, by people who were not, and are not, 'principally' involved in the individual issues, is tantamount to stifling that dialogue and, if unrestrained, is what actually leads to 'victimisation - of the ones who are claiming a grievance.

A lot has been written and intimated at, that this thread is 'Much Ado About Nothing' but that is wholly dismissive and unfair to the members who feel strongly enough about their claims, that they enter what is after all 'The Lion's Den' to air those claims.

One thoroughly decent and active long-serving member has quit the forum because of his depth of feelings about his own particular issue - Does that lend weight to any argument that this entire matter is spurious?

No one is painting anyone out to be any kind of habitual monster - that is just not the case - but I have a genuine grievance, and I am attempting to resolve it in a mature and amicable manner.