[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Nobody said they caused trouble I think the claim was the cultural feel of the area had changed?

Apples and oranges. He mentioned his father not feeling it was very friendly, all of the neighbours faces being foreign. The tone and description suggests it's not a positive thing.

He also mentioned the number of greencard marriages. That's not a positive thing.

If the only change is the skin colours are getting darker then the discussion is even more ridiculous than I first thought.

[Tozzie]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

Apples and oranges. He mentioned his father not feeling it was very friendly, all of the neighbours faces being foreign. The tone and description suggests it's not a positive thing.

He also mentioned the number of greencard marriages. That's not a positive thing.

If the only change is the skin colours are getting darker then the discussion is even more ridiculous than I first thought.

the things I mentioned may not be positive things but its fact. Green card marriages happen The fact my father feeling sadness how he feels his country has gone into decline in his last years of life is a negative thing, why would I feel positive about my 84 years old father feeling sad about how life as he knows it has changed. If the only change is the skin colours are getting darker, now I find that a ridiculous thing to say, it's to do with many things changing.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Tozzie

the things I mentioned may not be positive things but its fact. Green card marriages happen The fact my father feeling sadness how he feels his country has gone into decline in his last years of life is a negative thing, why would I feel positive about my 84 years old father feeling sad about how life as he knows it has changed. If the only change is the skin colours are getting darker, now I find that a ridiculous thing to say, it's to do with many things changing.

I never said you should feel positive.
I was responding to Cherie who said nobody said anything was negative about it.

Obviously you felt negatively about these things you've experienced so I told that was what I was referring to.

The only thing I would say is, yes, green card marriages happen. But are they a large scale problem? To suggest they are requires facts and figures. Otherwise it's just a couple of unfortunate incidents you yourself have known.

I don't really venture into this part of the forum much as every time I do I spend most of the thread having to explain the context of a discussion with one forum member to somebody else who ventures in later despite the context of discussion being there on the page for everyone to read. Therefore less time spent discussing the actual topic. It's exhausting.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

I never said you should feel positive.
I was responding to Cherie who said nobody said anything was negative about it.

Obviously you felt negatively about these things you've experienced so I told that was what I was referring to.

The only thing I would say is, yes, green card marriages happen. But are they a large scale problem? To suggest they are requires facts and figures. Otherwise it's just a couple of unfortunate incidents you yourself have known.

I don't really venture into this part of the forum much as every time I do I spend most of the thread having to explain the context of a discussion with one forum member to somebody else who ventures in later despite the context of discussion being there on the page for everyone to read. Therefore less time spent discussing the actual topic. It's exhausting.

I didn't say nobody said anything negative I said no one said they were trouble no wonder you find it exhausting when you can't follow what has been said

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Cherie

I didn't say nobody said anything negative I said no one said they were trouble no wonder you find it exhausting when you can't follow what has been said

Foreigners marrying Brits for visas and moving their extended family over isn't trouble?

Ok.

[Tozzie]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

I never said you should feel positive.
I was responding to Cherie who said nobody said anything was negative about it.

Obviously you felt negatively about these things you've experienced so I told that was what I was referring to.

The only thing I would say is, yes, green card marriages happen. But are they a large scale problem? To suggest they are requires facts and figures. Otherwise it's just a couple of unfortunate incidents you yourself have known.

I don't really venture into this part of the forum much as every time I do I spend most of the thread having to explain the context of a discussion with one forum member to somebody else who ventures in later despite the context of discussion being there on the page for everyone to read. Therefore less time spent discussing the actual topic. It's exhausting.

I have to admit, this forum is exhausting and sometimes infuriating

I don't have facts and figures, I was making reference that it does happen because some muslims have their spouses chosen for them so they go over and bring them back here.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Tozzie

I have to admit, this forum is exhausting and sometimes infuriating

I don't have facts and figures, I was making reference that it does happen because some muslims have their spouses chosen for them so they go over and bring them back here.

Which is what I said.