[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Brillopad

What's wrong with it is that he is deliberately making it difficult to punish Britain which even other senior members of the EU agree. All that actually needs to be negotiated is a leaving date and an exit fee - and even the fee is questionable as we have assists in Europe to the tune of 130 billion, far more even than the extortionate figure Juncker is demanding. He is a crook in my opinion.

He isn't deliberately making it difficult...it is difficult.
Trying to oversimplify the process by stating all we need is a date and a price is rubbish.
What about trade, movement, security, borders, healthcare, expats, students, workers, fishing.... The list is endless.

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

He isn't deliberately making it difficult...it is difficult.
Trying to oversimplify the process by stating all we need is a date and a price is rubbish.
What about trade, movement, security, borders, healthcare, expats, students, workers, fishing.... The list is endless.

Why is he demanding 86 billion before even starting any negotiations on anything else then when we have assets in the EU of 130 billion - we should in theory be demanding about 40 billion back from the EU.

He is making ridiculous demands before even discussing anything else because he in trying to instill fear into Britain and all other EU countries who may want to do the same - that meets the definition of bullying in the eyes of most.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Brillopad

Why is he demanding 86 billion before even starting any negotiations on anything else then when we have assets in the EU of 130 billion - we should in theory be demanding about 40 billion back from the EU.

He is making ridiculous demands before even discussing anything else because he in trying to instill fear into Britain and all other EU countries who may want to do the same - that meets the definition of bullying in the eyes of most.

Where on earth did you pluck this figure from, and you accuse others of being uninformed? :/

The figure I have seen most widely reported is £50 billion, which may well be the cost of all the member states having to revise there trade and movement agreements with the EU. Are you aware how many countries there are in the EU, personally I'd say that was a bargain.

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Where on earth did you pluck this figure from, and you accuse others of being uninformed? :/

The figure I have seen most widely reported is £50 billion, which may well be the cost of all the member states having to revise there trade and movement agreements with the EU. Are you aware how many countries there are in the EU, personally I'd say that was a bargain.

It's in one of the articles I posted today.

In 'no need to pay trumped up leaving fee after all'.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Brillopad

It's in one of the articles I posted today.

In 'no need to pay trumped up leaving fee after all'.

Which one, it wasn't a Britain first one was it? I don't read those.

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Which one, it wasn't a Britain first one was it? I don't read those.

Nope. It's the second line of my post you quoted.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Brillopad

Nope. It's the second line of my post you quoted.

Ah, the musings of a right wing German MP... You are relying on some abstract options to further your assumptions today brillo.

[Denver]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Where on earth did you pluck this figure from, and you accuse others of being uninformed? :/

The figure I have seen most widely reported is £50 billion, which may well be the cost of all the member states having to revise there trade and movement agreements with the EU. Are you aware how many countries there are in the EU, personally I'd say that was a bargain.

They can not legally make Britain pay

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by Adam.

They can not legally make Britain pay

Indeed that is correct - especially as they owe us a fortune.