[smudgie]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

hhhmm if people saved harder all through their lives to get themselves a better pension is it really fair to take some of that back from them by doing this?

Yes.
They won't be taking any of your pension, but will have more in the pot for those that really do need it.
Many pensioners have no need of it
I certainly will be very happy to let the people that really need it have it.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by smudgie

Yes.
They won't be taking any of your pension, but will have more in the pot for those that really do need it.
Many pensioners have no need of it
I certainly will be very happy to let the people that really need it have it.

I disagree. It's little incentive to work hard in life

[smudgie]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

I disagree. It's little incentive to work hard in life

Fair enough.
I just don't personally feel happy about having a winter fuel pay out if we can manage without one, whereas many families who are struggling don't get it.

[Tozzie]

Originally Posted by smudgie

Fair enough.
I just don't personally feel happy about having a winter fuel pay out if we can manage without one, whereas many families who are struggling don't get it.

My dad has a little savings and I'm all for him having the winter fuel allowance, he's worked hard all his life, paid his taxes and national insurance so its right the government should give him back some of what they took over the years. His few savings makes him feel secure and if not for the winter fuel allowance he would have to dig into them.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Tozzie

My dad has a little savings and I'm all for him having the winter fuel allowance, he's worked hard all his life, paid his taxes and national insurance so its right the government should give him back some of what they took over the years. His few savings makes him feel secure and if not for the winter fuel allowance he would have to dig into them.

Exactly my point, it's people who sacrificed all their lives so they could feel secure and have a more comfortable life that will take the hit. It's just encouraging people not to bother doing so cos they'll get more stuff that way

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

I disagree. It's little incentive to work hard in life

I agree, it will be interesting to see what the cut off point will be before considered "wealthy"

If I hear May say this is for "ordinary people" one more time I think I will scream and scream and scream, stop being so bloody patronising with your Mayisms