[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by Gusto Brunt

Actually Lotan is a much better housemate than dreary Raph.

It's a shame people on here can't express their true feelings about Raph. They're seemingly locked in an opinion he cannot do any wrong.

I can't support any of the popular crew after the way they treated Arthur. I find Lotan very shallow, but to each his own.

[snail69]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

I can't support any of the popular crew after the way they treated Arthur. I find Lotan very shallow, but to each his own.

This has to be a joke?!

Lotan out of anyone, not including Raph, tried to include Arthur and gave him multiple chances to be part of the group. Also when has he been shallow? It's okay not to like people but those reasons are clutching at straws to say the least.

Not looking to argue, just looking for you to be a little clearer in what you've said?

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by snail69

This has to be a joke?!

Lotan out of anyone, not including Raph, tried to include Arthur and gave him multiple chances to be part of the group. Also when has he been shallow? It's okay not to like people but those reasons are clutching at straws to say the least.

Not looking to argue, just looking for you to be a little clearer in what you've said?

That maybe so, but Lotan also was messing around with his things. I just don't find Lotan personality very appealing, to be honest.

[snail69]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

That maybe so, but Lotan also was messing around with his things. I just don't find Lotan personality very appealing, to be honest.

So I got no answers to my questions there. Which basically says to me that you are just blindly hating.

That's fine as it's up to you but don't pretend to have objective opinions when you clearly don't.

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by snail69

So I got no answers to my questions there. Which basically says to me that you are just blindly hating.

That's fine as it's up to you but don't pretend to have objective opinions when you clearly don't.

I'm not hating. I just went off Lotan after the way him and some of the others treated Arthur

[snail69]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

I'm not hating. I just went off Lotan after the way him and some of the others treated Raph.

Raph?! I don't remember them treating Raph badly?!

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by snail69

Raph?! I don't remember them treating Raph badly?!

I meant Arthur.

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by snail69

So I got no answers to my questions there. Which basically says to me that you are just blindly hating.

That's fine as it's up to you but don't pretend to have objective opinions when you clearly don't.

I told you why I don't like Lotan anymore. I liked him until last night episode. He's a good looking guy, but that's about it for me.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

That maybe so, but Lotan also was messing around with his things. I just don't find Lotan personality very appealing, to be honest.

agreed he does not come across well at all

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

agreed he does not come across well at all

He's very influenced by Tom. When Tom was going around hiding Arthur stuff some of the others were all for it.

[Withano]

Originally Posted by snail69

This has to be a joke?!

Lotan out of anyone, not including Raph, tried to include Arthur and gave him multiple chances to be part of the group. Also when has he been shallow? It's okay not to like people but those reasons are clutching at straws to say the least.

Not looking to argue, just looking for you to be a little clearer in what you've said?

"Guys, myself including, we all had a pop at Arthur and it isnt very nice" transparent af. He used Arthur as a way to promote himself. He knew people would buy into it.

[snail69]

Originally Posted by Withano

"Guys, myself including, we all had a pop at Arthur and it isnt very nice" transparent af. He used Arthur as a way to promote himself. He knew people would buy into it.

Well at least you answered the question with a well thought out and opinionated answer.

I can definitely see where you are coming from too. It's always hard to tell who and what is genuine and what is contrived.

Personally I do believe Lotan had time for Arthur so on this we can respectfully disagree I guess. Time will tell though I guess about who is right as I imagine if it is all contrived then he won't be able to 100% keep it up throughout the whole duration of the show.

I guess if you're right then, for now at least, I've brought into it as he's(Lotan) my current favourite.