[Withano]

Originally Posted by Northern Monkey

You do know that Tommy Robinson is'nt actually far right?Many of his political views are more left wing.
When he setup the EDL two core principles were "non racist,non violent" but far right factions got in and splintered off.He is classed as a "race traitor" by actual Nazis and far right activists.He was wanted by them.
One reason he started that group was that he was seeing friends around Luton suffering at the hands of Islamists and people he went to school with being radicalised on British streets.
He and a black friend went to a Britain First meeting but he refused to join as they wouldn't let his friend join because he's black so he set up the EDL to be non racist but to protest against Islamic extremism.
He left the EDL because it was taken over by racists.
He gets constantly slandered in the press and parts of things he says taken out of context and many believe it until they actually listen to him.
He also brings to light alot of things that the papers and news never tell us like the scale of the Pakistani child sex gang problem.There are loads of cases on going and in court and we are kept in the dark about it by mainstream media.

That's actually pretty interesting that he's disassociated himself with the edl. I didn't know that.
When it comes to tommy, I personally think, and I think a lot of people probably feel the same, that he is a guy that opposes one form of extremism very strongly. And when a person only opposes one form of extremism (i.e. Islamic) you must presume that there are racial/hateful implications.
I looked through his tweets - because I wasn't expecting to see him make a 20 minute video shouting at white right wing men - to see what he had to say about this event, and the closest he got to shaming it was asking people to compare this (presumably the death toll) to Manchester. The guy is scum. He's aggressive and honestly his stories about having multiple converted friends is either obvious bull**** or he's the unluckiest man in the universe!
Does make you wonder if this event would have happened at all if edl and Britain first didn't exist. Organisations that preach literally nothing but hate can't leave a good mental impression on anybody. Good for him for disassociating himself with that I guess. He hasn't done too much to prove he's much different though, to me.

[Northern Monkey]

Originally Posted by Withano

That's actually pretty interesting that he's disassociated himself with the edl. I didn't know that.
When it comes to tommy, I personally think, and I think a lot of people probably feel the same, that he is a guy that opposes one form of extremism very strongly. And when a person only opposes one form of extremism (i.e. Islamic) you must presume that there are racial/hateful implications.
I looked through his tweets - because I wasn't expecting to see him make a 20 minute video shouting at white right wing men - to see what he had to say about this event, and the closest he got to shaming it was asking people to compare this (presumably the death toll) to Manchester. The guy is scum. He's aggressive and honestly his stories about having multiple converted friends is either obvious bull**** or he's the unluckiest man in the universe!
Does make you wonder if this event would have happened at all if edl and Britain first didn't exist. Organisations that preach literally nothing but hate can't leave a good mental impression on anybody. Good for him for disassociating himself with that I guess. He hasn't done too much to prove he's much different though, to me.

I think it's not shocking to him because he's been predicting that this was going to start happening for a long time.Although i did see an interview recently where he called this guy "a monster".
As for him knowing people who've been radicalised i think i can probably believe it due to the extent of the problem in Luton.People getting converted on the street etc,Hate preachers living there and high tensions.There is alot of unreported shiz going on.Most of the country don't see this stuff as thankfully it seems concentrated to certain areas but how long before it grows more widespread is the worry.

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He left the EDL a few years ago now and for a time he was gaining a modicum of respectability by working with the Quilliam foundation which works with the Muslim community to tackle extremism. It was soon after then that he was invited to address the Oxford University union and he did actually give quite a measured and thought-provoking speech there. I don't think he works with Quilliam anymore though and recently he's got back into anti-Islam street activism with EDL-type movements like Pegida. He does always choose his words quite carefully and he doesn't explicitly advocate violence but he is still a dangerous man