[sungrass]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

what about if you were on a boat and it was sinking

Not women and children first?

This might seem a bit deep - but as you mentioned boats -
I think people are beginning to realise there are really feminine women and really masculine men.

And thats all it comes down to - its obvious to see how someone wants to be treated by their mannerisms (manner) if someone is showing less dominant traits perhaps its polite to be kind to them?

However it would take some pluck to pull out a chair for certain women - as you can sense - even just by watching them - they re not going to take it well - i.e the one from loose woman? Carole? Or Germaine Greer?

At the same time women these days dont really expect to be "ladies first" unless someone is acting very ''masculine'' - which Karthik does try to - he is sending out mixed signals which is interesting for us to watch how it will play out.

Karthik used conservastism and conventions when it suits him - I.E he has a presence of persnality and demands (no less) to be a man like everyone else yet- he accused Paul of racisim. (Without reason - I believe)

Yet his attidude towards women is certainly skewed - he has already been called out for this already and it seems to be a pattern.

I am interested to see how far this goes as I know men like him -
However his sparing partner is another man - for now. Which is Paul.