[Kizzy]

Oh... Look over there!!! LOOK !! LOOK!! Don't look at what is the actual and immediate issue here and now.

Pathetic! Sad pathetic attempt to suggest that anti fascists are to blame for the increasing violence from the alt right in the west.

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Oh... Look over there!!! LOOK !! LOOK!! Don't look at what is the actual and immediate issue here and now.

Pathetic! Sad pathetic attempt to suggest that anti fascists are to blame for the increasing violence from the alt right in the west.

That's part of the problem - some people refuse to see how their contribution in terms of behaviour contributed to a volatile situation spiralling out of control.

Why ccouldn't they just let those idiots have their little demonstration. Not to give them the publicity would have made more sense. They couldn't because they were trouble makers looking to make trouble. It isn't rocket science. They bear some responsibility for what happened like it is not.

[Alf]

Originally Posted by Brillopad

That's part of the problem - some people refuse to see how their contribution in terms of behaviour contributed to a volatile situation spiralling out of control.

Why ccouldn't they just let those idiots have their little demonstration. Not to give them the publicity would have made more sense. They couldn't because they were trouble makers looking to make trouble. It isn't rocket science. They bear some responsibility for what happened like it is not.

Exactly. They could have just laughed at how idiotic they are and gone on social media and meme'd the heck out of them. But the left don't do laughter, they do censor.

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by Alf

Exactly. They could have just laughed at how idiotic they are and gone on social media and meme'd the heck out of them. But the left don't do laughter, they do censor.

They do indeed Alf. Who do people think they are trying to censor people all the time.

[JTM45]

Originally Posted by Brillopad

They do indeed Alf. Who do people think they are trying to censor people all the time.

So you think the Nazi's of the far-right should have the right to voice their repugnant views and opinions on the streets of US and UK towns and cities do you ?

Wow!!!!

[user104658]

Originally Posted by JTM45

So you think the Nazi's of the far-right should have the right to voice their repugnant views and opinions on the streets of US and UK towns and cities do you ?

Wow!!!!

I believe the story is that everyone is allowed to say whatever they want, whenever they want, except Tibb members who want to call them racist or bigoted (not allowed never never)

[Alf]

Originally Posted by JTM45

So you think the Nazi's of the far-right should have the right to voice their repugnant views and opinions on the streets of US and UK towns and cities do you ?

Wow!!!!

Of course, why not? I'd rather know what these people are saying and thinking.

What power do they have? none. They're put in power by the people, in a democracy. So we listen to what they say, and decide weather we accept it or not, that's how it works.

Your personal feelings don't matter to other people, it's not up to you to decide who has the right to speak.

We have laws to deal with any violence.

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by JTM45

So you think the Nazi's of the far-right should have the right to voice their repugnant views and opinions on the streets of US and UK towns and cities do you ?

Wow!!!!

Why not? Plenty of other groups do. Just don't give them the publicity.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Alf

Exactly. They could have just laughed at how idiotic they are and gone on social media and meme'd the heck out of them. But the left don't do laughter, they do censor.

Ahh yes. If there's one thing those "on the right" are known for, it's their unshakeable sense of humour.



Those lefties just need to watch some Dad's Army and relax.

[Alf]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Ahh yes. If there's one thing those "on the right" are known for, it's their unshakeable sense of humour.



Those lefties just need to watch some Dad's Army and relax.

Amen to that brother.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Brillopad

That's part of the problem - some people refuse to see how their contribution in terms of behaviour contributed to a volatile situation spiralling out of control.

Why ccouldn't they just let those idiots have their little demonstration. Not to give them the publicity would have made more sense. They couldn't because they were trouble makers looking to make trouble. It isn't rocket science. They bear some responsibility for what happened like it is not.

What should people do to protest against fascists and neo nazis?

Give me one thing that can be done that would show the depth of feeling that would counter that venom, waving flowers? placards?

People are looking towards the establishment and what are they doing....Nothing, turning a blind eye to the hate filled rabble because the sad fact is it's state sanctioned.

It's not just a few idiots having a rant, it's an uprising. Nobody deserves any blame for railing against it. If you can't see that this is what legions of people fought and died to protect us from having to experience again then I pity you. You are not just blinkered but blind.

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

What should people do to protest against fascists and neo nazis?

Give me one thing that can be done that would show the depth of feeling that would counter that venom, waving flowers? placards?

People are looking towards the establishment and what are they doing....Nothing, turning a blind eye to the hate filled rabble because the sad fact is it's state sanctioned.

It's not just a few idiots having a rant, it's an uprising. Nobody deserves any blame for railing against it. If you can't see that this is what legions of people fought and died to protect us from having to experience again then I pity you. You are not just blinkered but blind.

Those that died did so because they loved their country and their way of life. They were trying to protect us all from the control of a mass murderer who had committed the genocide of millions.

Please enlighten me as to how that compares to today. Who exactly do you see as the next Hitler? Could you be over-reacting a bit there. I find you using their brave sacrifice as a weapon to try to control the thoughts of others quite disrespectful.

Personally I see much more controlling forces than a few extreme right wing thugs.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Brillopad

Those that died did so because they loved their country and their way of life. They were trying to protect us all from the control of a mass murderer who had committed the genocide of millions.

Please enlighten me as to how that compares to today. Who exactly do you see as the next Hitler? Could you be over-reacting a bit there. I find you using their brave sacrifice as a weapon to try to control the thoughts of others quite disrespectful.

Personally I see much more controlling forces than a few extreme right wing thugs.

I find your brand of thought control disrespectful frankly, it compares in respect to the media sanctioned propaganda that infects minds against sub sections the way it did in the 30s.

There is no one entity but a lurch toward an ideology that relies on the divide and conquer method, and it's working.

As I've said should you find those fighting against fascism to be on a par with those actively advocating fascism then you have my sympathy.

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

I find your brand of thought control disrespectful frankly, it compares in respect to the media sanctioned propaganda that infects minds against sub sections the way it did in the 30s.

There is no one entity but a lurch toward an ideology that relies on the divide and conquer method, and it's working.

As I've said should you find those fighting against fascism to be on a par with those actively advocating fascism then you have my sympathy.

It isn't fighting fascism its attempting to control people's thoughts, and using such tactics is not acceptable in my book. No sympathy required.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Brillopad

It isn't fighting fascism its attempting to control people's thoughts.

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Only those who aren't in control of their own minds are susceptible to having their minds controlled by others, Brillo...

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Brillopad

It isn't fighting fascism its attempting to control people's thoughts, and using such tactics is not acceptable in my book. No sympathy required.

Are you suggesting fascism doesn't exist? That there is no such thing as a fascist and all these anti fascists are simply thought police, you are aware of how infected that sounds surely?

I'm not saying that controlling peoples thoughts isn't a thing btw... As an example see the recent 'Muslim problem' article in the sun, or anything written by katie hopkins.