[Beso]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

Who said he's a nice guy?

His husband day 2 of the trial.

[Beso]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

Nobody's picking. You're arguing a point that NOBODY made.

His husband did on day 2 of the tial, hence why i didnt quote anyone....and im being accused if being thick fgs.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by parmnion

His husband day 2 of the trial.

Yes but it sounds like you're trying to make a counter-point to something someone has said on here. Who on here has agreed with those statements made by his husband?

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by parmnion

His husband on day 2 of the trial.

Oh right, the way you put it into your post made it seem like you were asking us all why we thought he was a nice guy, who are you asking then? Pretty sure the husband isn't a member here

[Beso]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Yes but it sounds like you're trying to make a counter-point to something someone has said on here. Who on here has agreed with those statements made by his husband?

I would have quoted.....are we now going to spend another page arguing about me? Cause im a bit fed up with it to be honest.

[Beso]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Oh right, the way you put it into your post made it seem like you were asking us all why we thought he was a nice guy, who are you asking then? Pretty sure the husband isn't a member here

Not really asking anyone, just making a point really regarding this one off thing...which is rubbish as it wasnt a one of thing

[Ashley.]

Originally Posted by parmnion

Stop picking stupid holes fgs..we all know what i mean.

So if he really really did care that much about the child then why didnt he hand the child back after the first, 2nd or even 3rd instance of abuse?


Simple really, he cared more about himself than the child he was trying to adopt.

I don't think it's simple at all... Like others have already mentioned, this isn't just a case of one thing causing another, it's much much more complicated than that.

[Marsh.]

That's why it pays to put your post into a context and not stick it at the end of an ongoing discussion where it appears to be a response to that discussion.

[Marsh.]

In response to what you actually said, it doesn't have to be one incident for his husband to have seen him as a nice guy beforehand.

His anger issues clearly aren't "issues" if he's noticing them and getting help for them immediately after one instance.

You're simplifying psychological problems.

[Ammi]

..this is all just so incredibly heart-breaking, the pain that Elsie must have endured......


..there appeared to bee a whole catalogue of injuries and hospital visits/fractured bones, had injuries happening almost monthly while she was in the care of Matthew Scully-Hicks..and yet the adoption wasn't halted...?...no enquiries were made into the constant hospital visits and 'accidents'..?...also her persistent vomiting after head injury and no CT scan was done at the hospital and again, the adoption process not looked at, at all..?...it's all incredibly wrong...and I hope this is a start of some serious reviews and possible changes...

[Vicky.]

I don't understand how professionals keep missing stuff like this. They pretty much stalked us for months and months, dropping in unannounced, accusing us of all sorts, making me cry at one stage by telling me my illness meant I was an unfity parent, and that was all just as Gavins other son accidentally kneed Skye in the head when she was a few months old. We took her to hospital immediately to get checked even though 111 said it wouldn't likely be serious if she didn't have a noticeable dent or anything and cried straight away...but we got her checked anyway. We were reported to SS because of the nature of the accident and they chased us for months and months. Yet cases like this...don't get that? When there have been multiple suspicious injuries? Just makes no sense to me.

[Beso]

Originally Posted by Ammi

..this is all just so incredibly heart-breaking, the pain that Elsie must have endured......


..there appeared to bee a whole catalogue of injuries and hospital visits/fractured bones, had injuries happening almost monthly while she was in the care of Matthew Scully-Hicks..and yet the adoption wasn't halted...?...no enquiries were made into the constant hospital visits and 'accidents'..?...also her persistent vomiting after head injury and no CT scan was done at the hospital and again, the adoption process not looked at, at all..?...it's all incredibly wrong...and I hope this is a start of some serious reviews and possible changes...

This is my main issue as well and is what ive been trying to get across...fancy a job proof reading my posts prior to posting?

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

I don't understand how professionals keep missing stuff like this. They pretty much stalked us for months and months, dropping in unannounced, accusing us of all sorts, making me cry at one stage by telling me my illness meant I was an unfity parent, and that was all just as Gavins other son accidentally kneed Skye in the head when she was a few months old. We took her to hospital immediately to get checked even though 111 said it wouldn't likely be serious if she didn't have a noticeable dent or anything and cried straight away...but we got her checked anyway. We were reported to SS because of the nature of the accident and they chased us for months and months. Yet cases like this...don't get that? When there have been multiple suspicious injuries? Just makes no sense to me.

Think about it for a minute, maybe just maybe, the SS or whoever does these checks, are also intimidated by the current PC and fearful of being labelled as homophobic, consciously or unconsciously, if they are considered to be too thorough in their assessment. It is entirely possible in my opinion.

[DemolitionRed]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

That still doesn't make what you said about DRs post right. You pretty much implied because she thought that it wasn't pre meditated that she had sympathy for a man who killed a baby, that's quite low imo

Thank you... Marsh too, because I had to hold back on my reply because I'd probably get an infraction.

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by DemolitionRed

Thank you... Marsh too, because I had to hold back on my reply because I'd probably get an infraction.

I doubt it.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Brillopad

I doubt it.

There's a new Oracle in town

[Ashley.]

Originally Posted by Brillopad

Think about it for a minute, maybe just maybe, the SS or whoever does these checks, are also intimidated by the current PC and fearful of being labelled as homophobic, consciously or unconsciously, if they are considered to be too thorough in their assessment. It is entirely possible in my opinion.

I doubt it.

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by Brillopad

Think about it for a minute, maybe just maybe, the SS or whoever does these checks, are also intimidated by the current PC and fearful of being labelled as homophobic, consciously or unconsciously, if they are considered to be too thorough in their assessment. It is entirely possible in my opinion.

Well I wouldn't say it was entirely impossible that this may happen at times. I do think its pretty unlikely though.

Just don't understand how I was stalked for one mistake (which was an accident caused by a child, not even myself!) where there was not even any serious injury and we only went to hospital as I was a bit of a neurotic first ti me mother... where so many others seem to not be investigated for multiple dodgy accidents.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

Well I wouldn't say it was entirely impossible that this may happen at times. I do think its pretty unlikely though.

Just don't understand how I was stalked for one mistake (which was an accident caused by a child, not even myself!) where there was not even any serious injury and we only went to hospital as I was a bit of a neurotic first ti me mother... where so many others seem to not be investigated for multiple dodgy accidents.

Probably comes down to individual health nurses personalities as well I suppose

[Vicky.]

Health visitors are entirely useless. Either they upset good parents, or they miss bad ones. We have had 3 in total over the years and only one of them was half decent and actually helpful. The others were just awful judgey people who had no actual kids of their own...which I genuinely do think should be a requirement of doing a job like that. You simply cannot do it if you think kids are all textbook. Doesn't work like that and your advice is garbage.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

Health visitors are entirely useless. Either they upset good parents, or they miss bad ones. We have had 3 in total over the years and only one of them was half decent and actually helpful. The others were just awful judgey people who had no actual kids of their own...which I genuinely do think should be a requirement of doing a job like that. You simply cannot do it if you think kids are all textbook. Doesn't work like that and your advice is garbage.

The one I had after I had Luke drove me crazy she kept getting his name wrong, everytime she posted out a letter she had a different name on it I'd swear she did it on purpose too to annoy me

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

The one I had after I had Luke drove me crazy she kept getting his name wrong, everytime she posted out a letter she had a different name on it I'd swear she did it on purpose too to annoy me

Omg, did she ever need to write your name down? I bet that was a challenge for her.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

Omg, did she ever need to write your name down? I bet that was a challenge for her.

My name isn't actually a challenge in Ireland considering it's an Irish name

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

My name isn't actually a challenge in Ireland considering it's an Irish name

[Cherie]

He has been found guilty sentencing tomorrow

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