[Cherie]

[QUOTE=Toy Soldier;9677617]Of course it does and I don't even know how to make it more simple...

You said that; "there is a train of thought on this thread that throat slitting causes no pain... so if people believe that they should have no issue with animals being killed in this way outside the meat industry"

SO

If people believe that throat slitting is OK in the meat indistry, it's fine outside of the meat industry. That is your logic here.

Therefore

If people believe that stunning/bolting is OK in the meat industry, it must be fine outside of the meat industry?

Which leads me to the conclusion that you must think that stunning and killing cats is OK so long as it's painless.


If you DON'T... then I have no idea why you think that anyone who is OK with throat slitting in the meat industry is also OK with cat murder.

Frankly though, i think you're just scrabbling to make a point that you haven't really thought through.[/QUOTE]


No I think you will find that is you and you have not comprehended what I am saying, I have not gone to great lengths such as providing links and proof that throat slitting is painless, I have not said stunning is a great idea, what I have said is I think slitting throats might not be such a stress free experience as is being promoted, so in view of that promotion would the same people promoting the idea of throat slitting as a kinder way to die, be okay with other animals having their throats slit outside the meat industry if there were going to die...whether this be culling or some psycho killing animals is just an example and not one to be taken to heart like you have done.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Cherie

No I think you will find that is you and you have not comprehended what I am saying, I have not gone to great lengths such as providing links and proof that throat slitting is painless, I have not said stunning is a great idea, what I have said is I think slitting throats might not be such a stress free experience as is being promoted, so in view of that promotion would the same people promoting the idea of throat slitting as a kinder way to die, be okay with other animals having their throats slit outside the meat industry if there were going to die...whether this be culling or some psycho killing animals is just an example and not one to be taken to heart like you have done.

But you're making points that just don't exist? The methods used for culling animals are horrific! YES it would be far better if we could cut their throats. Do you think culling methods are selected based on being kind? They're selected based on what is cheapest and most effective. Usually poison which is pretty much the worst way to die imaginable.

If you're talking about animal euthanasia, sure, the lethal injection given lets them pass away peacefully. It also would contaminate the meat so is completely irrelevant to the meat industry.

So all you're asking is, outside of the context of the meat industry, "How should we kill animals"? We shouldn't, is the answer... I don't understand what you're getting at, at all.

The ONLY relevant question is, is throat-slitting worse than stunning and killing. I have no idea how or why you're trying to transfer just the "throat slitting" part over to an example of other random animal killings in an attempt to "make people see that cutting something's throat is bad". Yes it's bad. Killing animals is bad! We do it for selfish reasons, and the animals suffer. What is your point otherwise? I can't imagine you do have one UNLESS you are trying to say that while throat cutting "is bad", bolting/electrocuting "isn't bad", which would be a very confusing standpoint.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

But you're making points that just don't exist? The methods used for culling animals are horrific! YES it would be far better if we could cut their throats. Do you think culling methods are selected based on being kind? They're selected based on what is cheapest and most effective. Usually poison which is pretty much the worst way to die imaginable.

If you're talking about animal euthanasia, sure, the lethal injection given lets them pass away peacefully. It also would contaminate the meat so is completely irrelevant to the meat industry.

So all you're asking is, outside of the context of the meat industry, "How should we kill animals"? We shouldn't, is the answer... I don't understand what you're getting at, at all.

The ONLY relevant question is, is throat-slitting worse than stunning and killing. I have no idea how or why you're trying to transfer just the "throat slitting" part over to an example of other random animal killings in an attempt to "make people see that cutting something's throat is bad". Yes it's bad. Killing animals is bad! We do it for selfish reasons, and the animals suffer. What is your point otherwise? I can't imagine you do have one UNLESS you are trying to say that while throat cutting "is bad", bolting/electrocuting "isn't bad", which would be a very confusing standpoint.

If you haven't got it by now you never will, and I find it ironic that you have just preached on another thread about people wilfully pretending not to get it, when you so often exhibit this behaviour yourself