[jaxie]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

This may be me. I have repeatedly said that cutting throats is actually a painless death, as it appears studies back up (and if there were any studies proving otherwise, I am sure they would have been found by someone by now. Maybe not cherie, but someone. I had a brief search but can't find any, but they still may exist) So if this is what Cherie means by doesn't affect the animal...then yeah I did say it. And stand by it given my experience of bad cuts with very sharp objects and how little I felt, along with the research actually specifically done on the matter.

But as DR pointed out, it obviously affects the animal in the sense that the animal dies.

Edit. Though I should maybe say, that throat cutting as a way to die...would only be painless if the cutting was done by someone skilled enough to do it right. Not an amateur throat cutting, which may not even kill the cuttee.

TBH I hadn't bothered to look for 'proof' since it seems pretty obvious to me that having your throat cut would be unpleasant and I've found this thread somewhat bizarre personally. Since you brought it up though I did a quick Google.

https://www.newscientist.com/article...ous-slaughter/

It wasn't that hard to find just a Google of 'is cutting an animals throat a painless death'.

RSPCA says a stunned animal is rendered unconscious. Which is what I'd assumed. There are several PDFs at the bottom of this article which explains why the RSPCA are opposed to halal and kosher slaughter.

https://www.rspca.org.uk/adviceandwe...ghter/factfile

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by jaxie

TBH I hadn't bothered to look for 'proof' since it seems pretty obvious to me that having your throat cut would be unpleasant and I've found this thread somewhat bizarre personally. Since you brought it up though I did a quick Google.

https://www.newscientist.com/article...ous-slaughter/

It wasn't that hard to find just a Google of 'is cutting an animals throat a painless death'.

RSPCA says a stunned animal is rendered unconscious. Which is what I'd assumed. There are several PDFs at the bottom of this article which explains why the RSPCA are opposed to halal and kosher slaughter.

https://www.rspca.org.uk/adviceandwe...ghter/factfile

of course it's going to be unpleasant, there is no "pleasant" way to kill an animal for food. Do you think hanging a chicken upside down by their legs and dunking their heads in an electrified water-bath before cutting their heads off is nicer?

[jaxie]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

of course it's going to be unpleasant, there is no "pleasant" way to kill an animal for food. Do you think hanging a chicken upside down by their legs and dunking their heads in an electrified water-bath before cutting their heads off is nicer?

Nicer than what?

I've already said I am bothered by slaughter and dont find any of it nice. I would prefer slaughtered animals to be treated as humanely as possible since I am unlikely to stop the UK consuming meat personally. You are taking issue with that and not with those promoting stringing it upside down, cutting its throat and letting it bleed to death. Are you upset because Im not a vegan but fine that others arent? Not getting where you are coming from here.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by jaxie

Nicer than what?

I've already said I am bothered by slaughter and dont find any of it nice. I would prefer slaughtered animals to be treated as humanely as possible since I am unlikely to stop the UK consuming meat personally. You are taking issue with that and not with those promoting stringing it upside down, cutting its throat and letting it bleed to death. Are you upset because Im not a vegan but fine that others arent? Not getting where you are coming from here.

Nicer than the part of your post that I highlighted............

"it seems pretty obvious to me that having your throat cut would be unpleasant"

I'm not taking issue with you wanting the animals to have a nicer death (if there is such a thing) I'm saying the way they die in our slaughterhouses are horrendous as well. I've no idea what you're on about with me wanting you to be vegan lol I couldn't care less what you do or do not eat

[jaxie]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Nicer than the part of your post that I highlighted............

"it seems pretty obvious to me that having your throat cut would be unpleasant"

I'm not taking issue with you wanting the animals to have a nicer death (if there is such a thing) I'm saying the way they die in our slaughterhouses are horrendous as well. I've no idea what you're on about with me wanting you to be vegan lol I couldn't care less what you do or do not eat

Perhaps I misread what you were trying to say. I'll stick with the RSPCA opinion myself rather than forum.