[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

You made an ignorant blanket statement on video games when you admittedly don't know much about video games so I called it out.

Again, the USP of the trailer is not the child abuse, they are not saying 'play this game, you get to witness child abuse!' They are saying that consequences have actions and your choices affect how the story plays out which is why they show the worst possible outcome first and how your actions can change what happens.

It won't have any more of an effect on 'normalising' abuse as any film or TV show has that's covered the subject. You do not play as the aggressor, the trailer shows that the father's actions are not okay and the whole point of that section is to try to help the child out of a toxic and abusive situation.

There's no evidence to say that the Loch Ness Monster doesn't exist but that doesn't mean it's a solid argument for saying that it's real. There's no real evidence, despite how hard the media want there to be, of a link between playing violent video games and the development of violent tendencies in players. There's not many people who don't already have the potential to abuse others who would play this game and think 'yeah! domestic abuse looks good to me! Let's try it!'

You may think your opinions are above criticism, Kizzy, but they are not. You made an ignorant statement and you got called out on it. You are entitled to your ignorance and I'm entitled to comment on it.

Of course I don't think my opinions are above criticism but like TS you are taking the fact I don't have direct experience as a gamer to denigrate my opinion, as I said to him there are a myriad of things discussed on this forum that you personally don't have direct experience of I would never suggest you are unqualified to comment on them though.

I'm not suggesting that those playing would become abusers, that's where you have totally misinterpreted my point, my issue is that it would desensitise and normalise abuse so it no longer is has the power to shock, I'm not the only one to have these views I'm not the only person to voice them.
I'm not sure how I can be accused of ignorance and naivety when there is a body dedicated to the study and measure of such outcomes.


Repeated Play of Violent Video Games Creates Emotional Desensitization

In April 2016, "Repeated Play Reduces Video Games’ Ability to Elicit Guilt: Evidence from a Longitudinal Experiment," was published in the journal Media Psychology. This study was conducted by Andrew Grizzard of University of Buffalo along with co-authors Ron Tamborini and John L. Sherry of Michigan State University, and René Weber of the University of California, Santa Barbara (UCSB).
https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog...esensitization

The findings provide the first experimental evidence that repeatedly playing the same violent game reduces emotional responses -- like guilt -- not only to the original game, but to other violent video games as well.

Yet why this is happening remains a mystery, according to Matthew Grizzard, assistant professor of communication and principal investigator of the study published in current issue of the journal Media Psychology, with co-authors Ron Tamborini and John L. Sherry of Michigan State University and René Weber of the University of California Santa Barbara.

"What's underlying this finding?" asks Grizzard. "Why do games lose their ability to elicit guilt, and why does this seemingly generalize to other, similar games?"

Grizzard, an expert in the psychological effects of media entertainment, has previously studied the ability of violent video games to elicit guilt. The current study builds upon that work.


https://www.sciencedaily.com/release...0408163742.htm