[DemolitionRed]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

DR I think you're preaching to the converted somewhat here, I would say that 99% of the forum and for certain me personally am very sympathetic to M/F or F/M transitions.

I have to say though that as upsetting as it was the fact was they were once a different gender... and as such will have had experiences that they could draw on for comment in relation to that.
Which to my mind is more or less what happened here, they didn't die and get reborn they transitioned, the memory of socialisation, patriarchy and peer pressure is still all there to relate to isn't it?

Should I transition tomorrow I would still have a wealth of experience as a female to draw upon a a trans man.

Okay, so here's a scenario that happened to him. At the start of his transitioning period he did everything he could to look like a boy. His mum went along with him on his induction day at uni and he was clearly concerned that people would catch him out and laugh at him (he's very quiet and shy). He had to line up and register. When he got to the registration table the woman couldn't find his name (his name is the same as his birth name as it can be used for boys or girls). The woman suddenly proclaimed loudly, "Oh here it is, I have you down as a female" and continued "Oh right ok... your a male now!!". He was devastated.

Yes, its true, he was once a girl... he knows that but that doesn't mean he wants everyone in the room to know that. Informing a transgender that they were once female is a pointless and an inconsiderate action.

Nobody dies, nobody gets physically hurt but any act that causes anxiousness, upset and even depression should be avoided. Its called tact.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by DemolitionRed

Okay, so here's a scenario that happened to him. At the start of his transitioning period he did everything he could to look like a boy. His mum went along with him on his induction day at uni and he was clearly concerned that people would catch him out and laugh at him (he's very quiet and shy). He had to line up and register. When he got to the registration table the woman couldn't find his name (his name is the same as his birth name as it can be used for boys or girls). The woman suddenly proclaimed loudly, "Oh here it is, I have you down as a female" and continued "Oh right ok... your a male now!!". He was devastated.

Yes, its true, he was once a girl... he knows that but that doesn't mean he wants everyone in the room to know that. Informing a transgender that they were once female is a pointless and an inconsiderate action.

Nobody dies, nobody gets physically hurt but any act that causes anxiousness, upset and even depression should be avoided. Its called tact.

In this instance everyone in the room did know, having spent some time as the opposite sex is not a dirty secret either.

[DemolitionRed]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

In this instance everyone in the room did know, having spent some time as the opposite sex is not a dirty secret either.

Well as it happened, everyone in the room couldn't care less.

Being born female isn't a dirty secret but its up to the individual about sharing such information. Having someone else broadcast personal details about a persons gender is unnecessary and in his case damaging.