[DemolitionRed]

What we need to remind ourselves of is, our enemy is their enemy too.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by DemolitionRed

What we need to remind ourselves of is, our enemy is their enemy too.

well we need to remember the clamour to let in these wicked liars when clearly they were lying and that a certain Nigel Farage explained precisely that this would happen

That is lesson number 1

[DemolitionRed]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

well we need to remember the clamour to let in these wicked liars when clearly they were lying and that a certain Nigel Farage explained precisely that this would happen

That is lesson number 1

Its 75% of those tested, not 75% of all the children that have come in. Its a small fraction in comparison and the article link says this.

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by DemolitionRed

What we need to remind ourselves of is, our enemy is their enemy too.

I'm more concerned about things like NHS bed shortages, school places,and not having to build over green space for houses, than "nerr enemies tho."

Especially when with proper border control and not sticking our noses in, ISIS don't need to be our problem.

[DemolitionRed]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

I'm more concerned about things like NHS bed shortages, school places,and not having to build over green space for houses, than "nerr enemies tho."

Especially when with proper border control and not sticking our noses in, ISIS don't need to be our problem.

Would you believe me if I told you NHS beds aren't short because of immigrants and asylum seekers? I'm guessing you wouldn't.

Anyway, asylum seekers are not the same as migrants. Migrants apply to come to Britain, asylum seekers are running from war and persecution. There's a big difference.

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by DemolitionRed

Would you believe me if I told you NHS beds aren't short because of immigrants and asylum seekers? I'm guessing you wouldn't.

I knowwww, it's because of the evil Tories and their evil cutbacks. But when we have fewer NHS beds - for whatever reason - bringing in more people, especially people from places without vaccines or decent healthcare, isn't the best idea.

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

I knowwww, it's because of the evil Tories and their evil cutbacks. But when we have fewer NHS beds - for whatever reason - bringing in more people, especially people from places without vaccines or decent healthcare, isn't the best idea.

Indeed.

[DemolitionRed]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

I knowwww, it's because of the evil Tories and their evil cutbacks. But when we have fewer NHS beds - for whatever reason - bringing in more people, especially people from places without vaccines or decent healthcare, isn't the best idea.

Then what do you suggest? I'm not talking immigrants. I mean refugees?

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by DemolitionRed

Then what do you suggest? I'm not talking immigrants. I mean refugees?

I suggest there's a whole planet out there, with bigger and emptier countries than ours, and there's no reason we should take the burden at all.

[kirklancaster]

Where is the DEFINITIVE PROOF that some of those Refugees are not covert Terrorists, or have 'Terrorist Sympathies' or are not just opportunist 'Economic Migrants' taking advantage of the 'Refugee Crisis'?

We KNOW so very, very little about each and every individual that steps onto these shores as 'Refugees'.

And to decry anyone's legitimate claim that unfettered immigration - of any classification - does ADD to the burden on our already struggling NHS, POLICE, HOUSING and WELFARE SERVICES is, quite frankly banal.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

I suggest there's a whole planet out there, with bigger and emptier countries than ours, and there's no reason we should take the burden at all.

Well that Australian outback is pretty vast as is America etc,but their governments are looking after their own first,I am sure May would like do the same but the PC brigade wont let her, we have to take in kids with a beards and moustaches who say they are in danger when in fact some of them are a danger to us ,that has been proven. We are pretty stupid tbh,we must be a laughing stock,and sometimes I think when some of these people kill,rape and maim ,we bring it on ourselves.no one is saying deny genuine KIDS in need,but surely there needs to be better checks on some of these people.

[DemolitionRed]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

I suggest there's a whole planet out there, with bigger and emptier countries than ours, and there's no reason we should take the burden at all.

Turkey was number 1 for taking 2.4 million Syrian, Iraqi, Afghani and Somalian refugees. Lebanon opened its doors to 1 million and Jordan took 665,000. Germany 749,309, Italy and Greece took 355,361 and the US took 559,37O. We took 168,978 and turned away a further 21,000 applications for asylum.

Yes, yes, we are only a small island but The Geneva Convention is a a United Nations agreement that the UK is signed up to and so long as we are part of the UN and we will be when we leave the EU, we are still obliged to take what the UN decide is our quota.