[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by Greg!

I think their gender should be legally changed first in order to weed out any potential pervs. But at the end of the day, no one is stopping anyone from entering any room they like. That's a risk we all have to take every day. It's not like there's bouncers outside bathroom doors. There's a risk that you will get struck by lightening after leaving your house and walking down the street. However, the chances of that happening, much like a creep dressing up as a woman and pretending to be trans to perv on women in a changing room, are extremely unlikely. I think the trans debate should focus on the fact that 45% of trans youth attempt suicide, rather than these ridiculous hypothetical bathroom scenarios with no basis.

I know you probably won't read, but others might.
https://www.transgendertrend.com/sto...ide-rate-mean/

[Greg!]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

I know you probably won't read, but others might.
https://www.transgendertrend.com/sto...ide-rate-mean/

You're right, I'm not going to read from a source called "transgender trend". (Recent evidence shows it is neurological and not a choice or trend.)

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by Greg!

You're right, I'm not going to read from a source called "transgender trend". (Recent evidence shows it is neurological and not a choice or trend.)

Recent evidence showed it MAY be neurological and not a choice - but was based on small numbers of people. It is not conclusive as yet.

Besides what does that have to do with either self-identification of men with no clinical diagnosis claiming to be female to access female only areas or the rights of one smaller group trampling over the rights of others.

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by Brillopad

Recent evidence showed it MAY be neurological and not a choice - but was based on small numbers of people. It is not conclusive as yet.

Besides what does that have to do with either self-identification of men with no clinical diagnosis claiming to be female to access female only areas or the rights of one smaller group trampling over the rights of others.

Well quite.

I have never ever had an issue with transsexual people, crack on, whatever makes you happy/feel better.

SelfID though I will always be against. Along with the lumping in of transsexual people with people who just do not follow stereotypes, crossdressers and drag queens under the 'trans' label. Transsexual people have bugger all in common with the other groups.