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Originally Posted by Niamh.

So they are going well or they're not? My post was in response to you saying that they weren't but now you're saying the total opposite.

The discussion went well because it was a discussion amongst like-minded people, and at the very most one person (Jack) who was taking a more or less neutral stance. Why would that discussion not go well? It wasn't a debate and any significant diversion from the status quo was made very quickly unwelcome. Again, it was NOT a debate, and debate on this subject is NOT welcome.

Vis a vis; I can only imagine how this thread would have gone if, say, 5 male to female transexuals had appeared and gotten involved. I'm going to hazard a guess at "lol, not well."