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Originally Posted by Vicky.

The behaviour of many transactivists is bringing hostility on the entire movement. Yet they continue. I suspect the reason for this is that many transactivists do not actually give a **** about transsexual people, or women, they are mens rights activists. Maybe the incel type, given the narcisism and misogyny they spout and the way they only attack women for speaking out. men are free to speak out without abuse, but god forbid a woman speaks her mind or even asks questions that they deem inappropriate.

I'm not going to deny that this is clearly true; but it baffles me that you can clearly see this and not acknowledge that the flipside (largely, female and active feminists) is equally true. Trying to paint a picture where all reasonable, rational women's rights activists are attacked "out of the blue" by activists on the flipside is a complete (deliberate?) misrepresentation. And whilst yes, I'm sure there ARE many reasonable, rational women's rights activists who get caught in the angry crossfire (just as you point out transpeople who just want to get on with it are)... this completely overlooks the fact that it "takes two to tango", so to speak, and there isn't "entirely unprompted" lashing out on either side.