[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Well said Smudgie

Niamh who abused you over Sam ?

[Rob!]

Originally Posted by Livia

Because you're calling this a witch hunt, and it isn't. And if you don't go into SD then you don't have the full picture... but you're free to comment without knowing the full picture, of course. I would prefer you saw both sides, then you'd understand.

I’ve read it though. It doesn’t seem like the sort of place to post that I would enjoy. I’lL occasionally go in and post my opinion, but there are some threads that I will see the title of and just know that the posts within it are going to make me angry, so I don’t go in. I do the same with Daily Mail articles.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Rob!

Why would being in SD more make a difference? I’ve seen what it’s like in there myself. It’s horrible. It’s full of arguments, not debates and people are made to feel like crap for having a different opinion. It also is the area that is causing one of the main issues (although there are others. Why would I want to post in there?

Yes you are right, or they are told that opinion is made up because of a general dislike of the other person and they truely don't believe in the point they are making, or they are told the place was better when they were banned, none of those people have made any ban list recently. If you feel its a witch hunt that is your opinion, but it is far from it, we need consistency and a fair hand for everyone that is all.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

Niamh who abused you over Sam ?

What do you mean?

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

What do you mean?

Dezzy said you got abuse from members over Sam ,I was wondering who abused you, I can PM you if you wish " One example of this involves Niamh, when SamPVT was on the forum, she would get tirades of abuse any time he got infracted "

[Twosugars]

Originally Posted by Livia

You've been here three months, if we're to believe you're not a returning member... you know neither the facts nor the strength of feeling on the forum. If you did, you may be a little less blinkered.

There you go again, dismissing my right to have my own opinion because I'm a relatively new member (four months and counting). And this paranoid belief I'm a returning member - another fabricated reason to undermine my opinion.
Bullying disguised as self-righteousness.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

Dezzy said you got abuse from members over Sam ,I was wondering who abused you, I can PM you if you wish " One example of this involves Niamh, when SamPVT was on the forum, she would get tirades of abuse any time he got infracted "

Oh no not from other members from Sam himself (before he was perma banned obviously) saying that I disliked him because he was Protestant and alot of weird stuff

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

Dezzy said you got abuse from members over Sam ,I was wondering who abused you, I can PM you if you wish " One example of this involves Niamh, when SamPVT was on the forum, she would get tirades of abuse any time he got infracted "

My bad, I meant she got abuse from Sam himself.

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Oh no not from other members from Sam himself (before he was perma banned obviously) saying that I disliked him because he was Protestant and alot of weird stuff

Thanks for clearing that up

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Welcome back Mrs Josy. Could you not trial it in SD for 3 months or something? I think most people would be happy if bans and infractions are handed out by someone who plays within the rules themselves and someone who is fair and even handed?

In a nutshell Cherie,I have no problem with rules as long as it applies to us ALL.

[Niamh.]

Honestly, I think the best solution for SDs would be have none of the current mods moderate it, get 2 or 3 new mods that nobody knows who they are to look after it. I'd be happy to stand down to make space for them aswell. I'm so tired of all this agro

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Rob!

I’ve read it though. It doesn’t seem like the sort of place to post that I would enjoy. I’lL occasionally go in and post my opinion, but there are some threads that I will see the title of and just know that the posts within it are going to make me angry, so I don’t go in. I do the same with Daily Mail articles.

Just remember a lot of responses were deleted ,if they hadn't been you may understand the problem more.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Twosugars

There you go again, dismissing my right to have my own opinion because I'm a relatively new member (four months and counting). And this paranoid belief I'm a returning member - another fabricated reason to undermine my opinion.
Bullying disguised as self-righteousness.

Whatever.... I'm not the only one who recognises your style.

[Twosugars]

Originally Posted by Livia

You've been here three months, if we're to believe you're not a returning member... you know neither the facts nor the strength of feeling on the forum. If you did, you may be a little less blinkered.

I don't believe in that narrative either. Mysterious groundswell of discontent mysteriously centering on one mod.
From what I see most people have no problem whatsoever with mods here, Dezzy included. But there's a group of, what, 10 at a push, that share most of their views on everything, but especially on gettin rid of Dezzy.

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Honestly, I think the best solution for SDs would be have none of the current mods moderate it, get 2 or 3 new mods that nobody knows who they are to look after it. I'd be happy to stand down to make space for them aswell. I'm so tired of all this agro

I agree ,and if a mod comments in there they can get infracted and banned the same as members

And NO WAY are you standing down young lady, you are a fair and honest mod on here and this place needs people like you ,you are liked by everyone, Ive never heard of anyone who has a gripe about you

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by Livia

Whatever.... I'm not the only one who recognises your style.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

I agree ,and if a mod comments in there they can get infracted and banned the same as members

And NO WAY are you standing down young lady, you are a fair and honest mod on here and this place needs people like you ,you are liked by everyone, Ive never heard of anyone who has a gripe about you

I'd be totally fine with that too tbh

[Twosugars]

Originally Posted by Livia

Whatever.... I'm not the only one who recognises your style.

who else does? do tell
and who am I supposed to be? share that with all, stop beating about the bush
once that's out in the open maybe we can devise a verification so that we can prove how foolish this accusation is

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Twosugars

I don't believe in that narrative either. Mysterious groundswell of discontent mysteriously centering on one mod.
From what I see most people have no problem whatsoever with mods here, Dezzy included. But there's a group of, what, 10 at a push, that share most of their views on everything, but especially on gettin rid of Dezzy.

You have no idea of the real problem, nor of the number of people who share my opinion. So your views are meaningless to me.

Not sure I could have given such a sweeping opinion of a huge problem on the forum when I'd only been here 4 months.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Twosugars

who else does? do tell
and who am I supposed to be? share that with all, stop beating about the bush
once that's out in the open maybe we can devise a verification so that we can prove how foolish this accusation is

This thread is not about you.

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

I'd be totally fine with that too tbh

It would make mods who choose to comment in there think twice before posting what they are posting at the minute behind the armour of a mod badge

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by Livia

You have no idea of the real problem, nor of the number of people who share my opinion. So your views are meaningless to me.

Not sure I could have given such a sweeping opinion of a huge problem on the forum when I'd only been here 4 months.

Sweeping comments were made about people when he/she had less than 100 posts

Back on topic . Im so glad things are getting thrashed out, it needed doing a long time ago

[Rob!]

So you’re suggesting that the mods you don’t like are banned from the entire section basically?

[Twosugars]

Originally Posted by Livia

You have no idea of the real problem, nor of the number of people who share my opinion. So your views are meaningless to me.

Not sure I could have given such a sweeping opinion of a huge problem on the forum when I'd only been here 4 months.

meaningless of inconvenient? if there were meaningless you'd not engage discussing with me

4 months is plenty; I bet 4 days would be enough, the attacks on Dezzy are very regular and predictable

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Rob!

So you’re suggesting that the mods you don’t like are banned from the entire section basically?

I don't think that's what she's suggesting at all tbf, she's saying that mods could be infracted in there.