[Fetch The Bolt Cutters]

its annoying when parents baptise you when your like 6 months old

you should be able to choose your own faith

[Niall]

Originally Posted by Scott

its annoying when parents baptise you when your like 6 months old

you should be able to choose your own faith

Ikr? Mine have failed anyway because, neither me or my brother have been confirmed.

[Fetch The Bolt Cutters]

Originally Posted by Niall

Ikr? Mine have failed anyway because, neither me or my brother have been confirmed.

your brother

[Niall]

Originally Posted by Scott

how do you change faith? i wanna be buddist. would be epic if you could apply online

I think you have to go to a Buddhist place and apply.

Originally Posted by Scott

your brother

LOL

[Fetch The Bolt Cutters]

how do you change faith? i wanna be buddist. would be epic if you could apply online

[Fetch The Bolt Cutters]

you said you would post more pics

[Stu]

Damn I forgot to list my technical Religion :

http://dudeism.com/

Now I remember. I'm a Dudeist.

[Locke.]

Dunno. I woulda voted christian but you've got 3 different types of them an I cba looking up which are what

[Niall]

Originally Posted by Locke.

Dunno. I woulda voted christian but you've got 3 different types of them an I cba looking up which are what

LOL fair enough

[Callum]

Catholic, although I rarely go to church, I want to start going again. I believe in God fully but not sure on the idea of heaven and hell.

[Iceman]

Born a Catholic but don't practice. I dont know what I believe, if I believe anything.

[MTVN]

One of my main problems with Christianity is that anyone who doesnt fully submit themselves to the ways of the Bible and the Church is automatically confined to Hell. Doesnt really sound like the loving, merciful & forgiving God that is often portrayed

[Stu]

Originally Posted by MTVN

One of my main problems with Christianity is that anyone who doesnt fully submit themselves to the ways of the Bible and the Church is automatically confined to Hell. Doesnt really sound like the loving, merciful & forgiving God that is often portrayed

No apparently you can do whatever the hell you want and as long as you accept Jesus as your lord and saviour at the end of the day it's all cushtee. That's the most worrying thing about it. U.S. prisons are full of bible thumping inmates and most gangs wear crosses under their brass knucks. What have they to fear? It doesn't matter how ruthless they are in this life. As long as they say 'sorry Jesus, lol' they get into heaven.

[MTVN]

Originally Posted by Stu

No apparently you can do whatever the hell you want and as long as you accept Jesus as your lord and saviour at the end of the day it's all cushtee. That's the most worrying thing about it. U.S. prisons are full of bible thumping inmates and most gangs wear crosses under their brass knucks. What have they to fear? It doesn't matter how ruthless they are in this life. As long as they say 'sorry Jesus, lol' they get into heaven.

Yep, whereas if you dont happen to believe in Gof and if you lead a life free of crime and free of any serious wrongdoing eternal damnation is the fate awaiting you. I think that's one of the things hardest to justify from a Christian perspective, along with the fact that God supposedly a benevolant force that can intefere in our lives and in the world, yet could sit by while natural disasters kill hundreds of thousands of people.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by MTVN

Yep, whereas if you dont happen to believe in Gof and if you lead a life free of crime and free of any serious wrongdoing eternal damnation is the fate awaiting you. I think that's one of the things hardest to justify from a Christian perspective, along with the fact that God supposedly a benevolant force that can intefere in our lives and in the world, yet could sit by while natural disasters kill hundreds of thousands of people.

Yes of course, impregnating a virgin with his son, to tell the world that he's Gods son is a far more effective way of convincing us all then say banishing poverty or stopping a tsunami

[Stu]

Originally Posted by MTVN

Yep, whereas if you dont happen to believe in Gof and if you lead a life free of crime and free of any serious wrongdoing eternal damnation is the fate awaiting you. I think that's one of the things hardest to justify from a Christian perspective, along with the fact that God supposedly a benevolant force that can intefere in our lives and in the world, yet could sit by while natural disasters kill hundreds of thousands of people.

My favourite above all of that though is that the worlds most important message - to believe in God and accept him or you are going to roast in a lake of fire for all eternity - was delivered not in the minds of all human beings the world over simultaneously ... but left to this one carpenter in the middle of Desertsville, Middle East, and a group of his posse to write down and hand down through the generations. You might as well trust a kitten to explain the plot of Oceans Twelve.

There are still to this day parts of the world where the 'great message' has not extended to. God is hardly giving those poor saps a fair chance at redemption, is he?

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Stu

My favourite above all of that though is that the worlds most important message - to believe in God and accept him or you are going to roast in a lake of fire for all eternity - was delivered not in the minds of all human beings the world over simultaneously ... but left to this one carpenter in the middle of Desertsville, Middle East, and a group of his posse to write down and hand down through the generations. You might as well trust a kitten to explain the plot of Oceans Twelve.

There are still to this day parts of the world where the 'great message' has not extended to. God is hardly giving those poor saps a fair chance at redemption, is he?

God is racist

[MTVN]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Yes of course, impregnating a virgin with his son, to tell the world that he's Gods son is a far more effective way of convincing us all then say banishing poverty or stopping a tsunami

Yes, it does all seem a little farfetched

Originally Posted by Stu

My favourite above all of that though is that the worlds most important message - to believe in God and accept him or you are going to roast in a lake of fire for all eternity - was delivered not in the minds of all human beings the world over simultaneously ... but left to this one carpenter in the middle of Desertsville, Middle East, and a group of his posse to write down and hand down through the generations. You might as well trust a kitten to explain the plot of Oceans Twelve.

There are still to this day parts of the world where the 'great message' has not extended to. God is hardly giving those poor saps a fair chance at redemption, is he?

Haha yeah that's true, I've never really thought of it like that before

[Princess]

I don't believe in God or any kind of high power. But I do believe in fate,miracles,meant to bes and so on which apprentley makes me Agnostic.

[LemonJam]

I'm agnostic, but I'm also a strong supporter of religion when growing up. I was bought up a Christian and even though I kind of doubted it my whole life I can't deny that it's played a huge role in who I am today.

Religion can teach children to respect others and live with love for one another and is (in general) a good way for your children to be bought up. The ten commandments are a great example of guidlines for children when maturing into an adult. It's only when people take it too literally and not as a moral guideline when things go tits up.

[Lee.]

Originally Posted by LemonJam

I'm agnostic, but I'm also a strong supporter of religion when growing up. I was bought up a Christian and even though I kind of doubted it my whole life I can't deny that it's played a huge role in who I am today.

Religion can teach children to respect others and live with love for one another and is (in general) a good way for your children to be bought up. The ten commandments are a great example of guidlines for children when maturing into an adult. It's only when people take it too literally and not as a moral guideline when things go tits up.

I was not brought up with religion at all, although a lot of my family are firm believers in spiritualism, and through a staunch belief in evolution and living in continual wonder at the world around us, I too have grown up to respect other humans, treat others equally and to live with love.. You don't need religion to grow into a good person in my opinion.

Selflessness, a good heart, strong morals and good social awareness makes people good which I don't think comes from having religious beliefs, but from having an upbringing which teaches you these things plus right from wrong.

I do however completely respect peoples religions and beliefs

[LemonJam]

Originally Posted by happyland

I was not brought up with religion at all, although a lot of my family are firm believers in spiritualism, and through a staunch belief in evolution and living in continual wonder at the world around us, I too have grown up to respect other humans, treat others equally and to live with love.. You don't need religion to grow into a good person in my opinion.

Selflessness, a good heart, strong morals and good social awareness makes people good which I don't think comes from having religious beliefs, but from having an upbringing which teaches you these things plus right from wrong.

I do however completely respect peoples religions and beliefs

Oh, absolutley LOL, I didn't mean to sound like all non-religious people were compelte bastards haha. Becoming a good person is definatley due to upbringing, but I do think that being bought up around the guidelines religion gives is something that could factor into that.

[Lee.]

Originally Posted by LemonJam

Oh, absolutley LOL, I didn't mean to sound like all non-religious people were compelte bastards haha. Becoming a good person is definatley due to upbringing, but I do think that being bought up around the guidelines religion gives is something that could factor into that.

You did didn't you?! You think we're all brushed with the devil!

[LemonJam]

Originally Posted by happyland

You did didn't you?! You think we're all brushed with the devil!

-sprays with holy water and recites John 3:16-

[Stu]

Originally Posted by LemonJam

I'm agnostic, but I'm also a strong supporter of religion when growing up. I was bought up a Christian and even though I kind of doubted it my whole life I can't deny that it's played a huge role in who I am today.

Religion can teach children to respect others and live with love for one another and is (in general) a good way for your children to be bought up. The ten commandments are a great example of guidlines for children when maturing into an adult. It's only when people take it too literally and not as a moral guideline when things go tits up.

Surely you can teach kids the same basic principals anyway without the quasi spiritual rubbish attached? I always thought the Ten Commandments were a pathetic moral code. A good few of them are purely to do with God's ego.

A heavy religious institutionalization from childhood can lead to people becoming ignorant sheep when they grow older if they decide not to grow out of the fairy tale mom and dad happily spun them. In America right now so called 'Jesus Camps' are hugely popular and those children are not going to grow up to be shining beacons of morality and acceptance. They are being brainwashed from an early age when they don't know any better. It's mental child abuse.

Religion, IMO, should never be an acceptable substitute for good parenting. Leave it until they are older. It just shouldn't come into a childs life.