[Nancy.]

Originally Posted by rusticgal

You only had to see his body movement...leaning away from Tomasz as he was stroking him...and his eyes said it all...darting about like he didn't know what to do and clearly uncomfortable with it...it was so apparent.

[susie q]

Originally Posted by Nancy.

Dedinitely sleazy, and yes if Akeem had said anything it would have caused a bitch fest with Lewis, and Cameron.

[Beso]

Originally Posted by rusticgal

You only had to see his body movement...leaning away from Tomasz as he was stroking him...and his eyes said it all...darting about like he didn't know what to do and clearly uncomfortable with it...it was so apparent.

He could have got up and walked away, or he could have simply turned to him and said get your fat sweaty Percy hands off me..... But he didn't.....



Cause he's NOT PLAYING A GAME.

[Nancy.]

Originally Posted by Garfie

I really don't think that Akeem was that uncomfortable with it, and honestly believe he is self-assured enough to have said something if he was. Akeem made some jokey comments at the time, and didn't seem at all bothered to me. I think all housemates know Tomasz is touchy feely, and accept that's just the way he is.

The look on his face and his body language was enough to see he wasn't comfortable with it. He probably thought if he said something Tomasz would sulk and have a good old bitch about it and make him out to be a bad guy. Just because Tomasz is touchy-feely with people, it doesn't mean they should let him do as he likes with them. I mean, where does Tomasz draw the line and how far would he go if there weren't any cameras?

[Garfie]

Originally Posted by Nancy.

The look on his face and his body language was enough to see he wasn't comfortable with it. He probably thought if he said something Tomasz would sulk and have a good old bitch about it and make him out to be a bad guy. Just because Tomasz is touchy-feely with people, it doesn't mean they should let him do as he likes with them. I mean, where does Tomasz draw the line and how far would he go if there weren't any cameras?

I agree with you totally that just because Tomasz is touchy feely people shouldn't let him do as he likes with them, and i wasn't suggesting for one moment they should.

However, I honestly do believe that if Akeem was that uncomfortable he would have stopped him or have told him to stop. In fact, his words suggested he wasn't awkward, as did him encouraging Tomasz to give him a lap dance the other night! I also think the same would apply to Akeem had the cameras been off. Akeem would be totally able to defend himself if it was necessary.

Your last sentence seems to imply that Tomasz would sexually assault someone, which seems to me a little inappropriate and unfair. It is noticeable that Tomasz has not behaved this way with everyone in the house, but has chosen the two strongest and most macho guys in the house, both of whom are straight - if he truly wanted to force unwanted attention on someone and was some sort of sexual predator, surely he would choose someone potentially more vulnerable, e.g. a smaller gay guy such as Cian (especially when he is drunk) or a young, inexperienced guy like Cameron.

His choices make no sense if his intentions are sinister, and I think perhaps he is trying to be amusing.

[bots]

Originally Posted by Garfie

I agree with you totally that just because Tomasz is touchy feely people shouldn't let him do as he likes with them, and i wasn't suggesting for one moment they should.

However, I honestly do believe that if Akeem was that uncomfortable he would have stopped him or have told him to stop. In fact, his words suggested he wasn't awkward, as did him encouraging Tomasz to give him a lap dance the other night! I also think the same would apply to Akeem had the cameras been off. Akeem would be totally able to defend himself if it was necessary.

Your last sentence seems to imply that Tomasz would sexually assault someone, which seems to me a little inappropriate and unfair. It is noticeable that Tomasz has not behaved this way with everyone in the house, but has chosen the two strongest and most macho guys in the house, both of whom are straight - if he truly wanted to force unwanted attention on someone and was some sort of sexual predator, surely he would choose someone potentially more vulnerable, e.g. a smaller gay guy such as Cian (especially when he is drunk) or a young, inexperienced guy like Cameron.

His choices make no sense if his intentions are sinister, and I think perhaps he is trying to be amusing.

I disagree. Tomasz chose the macho men to basically dare them to do something about it. If they had reacted negatively he would have played the victim.

Everything about Tomasz pawing Akeem was wrong, and I'm sorry, if he invades peoples private space like that, he is a predator

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

I disagree. Tomasz chose the macho men to basically dare them to do something about it. If they had reacted negatively he would have played the victim.

Everything about Tomasz pawing Akeem was wrong, and I'm sorry, if he invades peoples private space like that, he is a predator

I agree
if Cameron was touched and reacted upset then it would of been ok same with Cian.

But if Akeem gets upset then the whole house would turn on him ,typical hypocrisy & double standards .

Tomasz is a pig and he wants a reaction from Akeem, so he can run back to the others and bad mouth Akeem .

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

I disagree. Tomasz chose the macho men to basically dare them to do something about it. If they had reacted negatively he would have played the victim.

Everything about Tomasz pawing Akeem was wrong, and I'm sorry, if he invades peoples private space like that, he is a predator

Great minds

[Mystic Mock]

Tomasz reminded me of Mario from BB11 a little bit.

[Slevin]

i found it creepy since Tomasz doesnt like him but Akeem should have said something if he wasnt ok with it. since he didnt whatever. idc if & he shouldnt care if Tomasz would take offense. im sure Akeem could have said it in the nicest way possible & if Tomasz wanted to make a big deal out of that hes just hurting himself with the viewers even more so than he already has.

[chuff me dizzy]

IMO You all have read this wrong, heres my take on it ............. As we know Tomasz hates Akeem ,hes up for eviction alongside Tomasz's mate Isaac,Akeem is being cool as .... over it,Tomasz saw his chance to get Akeem to drop being Mr Cool nice chap ,he sat pawing and slavering over him for a reaction ,he wanted him to flip his lid as 99% of straight men would do but I think Akeem knew Tomasz's game and sat here impassive, he must have wanted to punch him all over the garden but wasn't rising to his goading ,do I think Tomasz fancies Akeem ? not in a million years, it was all a ploy for a reaction and Im glad Akeem didnt react

[Nancy.]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

IMO You all have read this wrong, heres my take on it ............. As we know Tomasz hates Akeem ,hes up for eviction alongside Tomasz's mate Isaac,Akeem is being cool as .... over it,Tomasz saw his chance to get Akeem to drop being Mr Cool nice chap ,he sat pawing and slavering over him for a reaction ,he wanted him to flip his lid as 99% of straight men would do but I think Akeem knew Tomasz's game and sat here impassive, he must have wanted to punch him all over the garden but wasn't rising to his goading ,do I think Tomasz fancies Akeem ? not in a million years, it was all a ploy for a reaction and Im glad Akeem didnt react

That didn't occur to me until now, but it sounds more likely. He's devious enough to do that.

Do you remember when Akeem asked Cameron if he'd like to go on the date with him before Cian and Zoe won it? and Tomasz's response was "Urgh" implying that he was repulsed by Akeem - and on top of that there's obviously the various incidents of him bitching and trying to get Akeem out. Ugh...what a nasty spiteful snake he is.

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by Nancy.

That didn't occur to me until now, but it sounds more likely. He's devious enough to do that.

Do you remember when Akeem asked Cameron if he'd like to go on the date with him before Cian and Zoe won it? and Tomasz's response was "Urgh" implying that he was repulsed by Akeem - and on top of that there's obviously the various incidents of him bitching and trying to get Akeem out. Ugh...what a nasty spiteful snake he is.

I would like to see the dirty perv try what he did to Akeem on another straight man in a pub ,he would be carried out on a stretcher

[Nancy.]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

I would like to see the dirty perv try what he did to Akeem on another straight man in a pub ,he would be carried out on a stretcher

Would have to be a bloody strong one.

[smudgie]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

IMO You all have read this wrong, heres my take on it ............. As we know Tomasz hates Akeem ,hes up for eviction alongside Tomasz's mate Isaac,Akeem is being cool as .... over it,Tomasz saw his chance to get Akeem to drop being Mr Cool nice chap ,he sat pawing and slavering over him for a reaction ,he wanted him to flip his lid as 99% of straight men would do but I think Akeem knew Tomasz's game and sat here impassive, he must have wanted to punch him all over the garden but wasn't rising to his goading ,do I think Tomasz fancies Akeem ? not in a million years, it was all a ploy for a reaction and Im glad Akeem didnt react

Spot on Chuff.

[jaxie]

It was uncomfortable to watch and Tomasz made himself look very sleazy and creepy.

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by jaxie

It was uncomfortable to watch and Tomasz made himself look very sleazy and creepy.

It's ridiculous how Akeem is getting blamed .

[Elliot]

He should get a warning or reminder of the rules for it if I’m being honest

[Denver]

Everyone would be flicking their bean had it been a good looking male doing it to a woman but because its a chubby Polish crossdresser he is a perv

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by Adam.

Everyone would be flicking their bean had it been a good looking male doing it to a woman but because its a chubby Polish crossdresser he is a perv

Cross dresser my arse !! do you seriously think he dresses like this out of the house ? No way !! and he's a gay man touching up a straight man for a reaction

[Denver]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

Cross dresser my arse !! do you seriously think he dresses like this out of the house ? No way !! and he's a gay man touching up a straight man for a reaction

Well yes he does

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by Adam.

Well yes he does

Give over Adam, its his gimmick

[Elliot]

Originally Posted by Adam.

Everyone would be flicking their bean had it been a good looking male doing it to a woman but because its a chubby Polish crossdresser he is a perv

If it was a good looking man doing it to a woman uninvited he would’ve got booted out

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by Elliot

If it was a good looking man doing it to a woman uninvited he would’ve got booted out

THANKYOU!

[Jordan.]

Originally Posted by Adam.

Also Akeem asks for him to do it

Originally Posted by Adam.

But Akeem leads him on