[arista]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

I can't speak for anyone else on this thread but it isn't about gay rights for me. It's about how trans rights directly affect women's rights and I am a woman so why don't I have a right to speak about something that would affect me? Why are women not allowed a voice in this discussion?

Yes well said.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

I can't speak for anyone else on this thread but it isn't about gay rights for me. It's about how trans rights directly affect women's rights and I am a woman so why don't I have a right to speak about something that would affect me? Why are women not allowed a voice in this discussion?

You know you are not allowed because women are second class citizens in the trans debate in his view

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

I can't speak for anyone else on this thread but it isn't about gay rights for me. It's about how trans rights directly affect women's rights and I am a woman so why don't I have a right to speak about something that would affect me? Why are women not allowed a voice in this discussion?

Quite.

Just because the apocryphal first brick "was thrown" by a drag queen some decades ago, doesn't excuse pushing gender ideology, especially at the expense of women's rights and spaces.

[Tom4784]

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[bots]

everyone knows that the bbc news content has been dreadful for years. It's a public service not a voice piece to support a specific agenda

[Liam-]

To outright say ‘nobody is opposing trans rights’ is either knowingly a complete lie, or at least incredible naivety

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Liam-

To outright say ‘nobody is opposing trans rights’ is either knowingly a complete lie, or at least incredible naivety

I'm referring to this debate/this thread where no one has stated anything that is in opposition to trans rights, and the decision of the BBC to seek guidance from avenues other than Stonewall, which is also not an action in opposition to trans rights (in fact in my opinion, continuing down the path Stonewall is set on is has already been incredibly damaging to rights across the board and this will continue to snowball - however that part is subjective).

I was obviously not saying "no one anywhere ever opposes trans rights", but I apologise if that wasn't clear. I'm also not saying that no one on this forum or who has posted on this thread opposes trans rights. Just that nothing that has been posted on this thread is in opposition to the concept of trans rights.

[Tom4784]

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[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

Homophobic attacks are on the rise, .

Stonewall don't seem to be doing anything to address or help this. They're effectively useless at anything but pushing gender ideology.

[Tom4784]

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[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

And what are the LGB doing? Oh right, absolutely nothing but demonising trans people.

What's "the LGB"? I have no idea what every lesbian, gay, and bisexual is doing.